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    The ramblings of a lunatic

    ORLANDO, Fla. -- Scott Boras had some words for the New York Mets, Chicago Cubs and Houston Astros, and they were far from kind. And he also backed the Tampa Bay Rays' desire for a new ballpark.

    On the third day of the general managers' meetings, the baseball agent with the highest profile stood in the hotel lobby for a question-and-answer session that gathered an amount of media so large that hotel security told him to move to a remote corridor.

    Boras wants to goad teams into spending more on free agents. When he focused on the Mets, he pointed out their concentration on captain David Wright and young pitchers such as Matt Harvey -- his client -- and Zack Wheeler.

    "The Mets are like NASA," Boras said. "They have big rockets, a lot of platforms and very few astronauts. Astronauts are hard to find. They've got one guy with the 'Wright' stuff, that's for sure. And they've got a lot of Arm-strongs, too. But they're certainly a club that I'm sure that's in pursuit of a higher level of talent."

    Boras has been stepping up his criticism of large-market teams lacking lofty payrolls. Following the collapse of Bernard Madoff's Ponzi scheme, the Mets have cut payroll by about one-third over the past two seasons and were 17th at about $95 million in the latest 2013 figures.

    "I think the ability to spend and actually spending are two different things. And that's only for the Mets to diagnose," Boras said. "Certainly their franchise value has gone through the roof -- they're well over $2 billion. They're a very successfully run business operation. The Mets have the ability to do pretty much what they want to do. But it's hard to find astronauts."

    Mets general manager Sandy Alderson responded in a low-key manner: "I don't think his intergalactic metaphor is exactly right."

    Asked what was incorrect, Alderson said: "I'm not sure because I've first got to understand it."

    The Cubs were 15th in payroll this year at about $101 million. Boras said the Rickets family, which bought the team four years ago, has put too much emphasis on the redevelopment of Wrigley Field and not enough on major league payroll.

    "You're developing the infrastructure, but fans don't come to see seats, grass, cement. They come to see players," he said. "They've done a great job in the draft and development and they've got a really good core of young players coming, but it is just not what's expected when you have a (family) buy a major-market club."

    Boras compared the Rays' situation to Charles Dickens' "Tale of Two Cities," saying there was "the one they're in and the one they should be in." The Rays repeatedly have said Tropicana Field in St. Petersburg is inadequate, and they drew a major league-low 1.5 million at home despite reaching the playoffs for the fourth time in six years.

    "They need a new ballpark. They need to address that," he said. "But certainly the bell's been answered by the organization as far as putting a product on the field that would normally attract fans."

    He joked about the Astros, who traded veterans and cut payroll to around $29 million -- $13 million less than any other big league team. Houston went a team-worst 51-111 and the Astros' 324 losses over three years matched the 1917 Philadelphia Athletics for third most in major league history.

    "The Astros," he said, "they're like Disneyland. If the kids come, it's a great attraction."
    Yeah no one comes to Wrigley to see Wrigley. 2.6 million came through the gates last year for Travis Wood. I get his underlying angle here, but it's possibly to play that angle without sounding like a babbling lunatic. Maybe the whole Jay-Z thing is actually getting to him.





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    He mad.

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    I love Scott Boras. He's more genius than lunatic. He may rub some people the wrong way but there's a method to his madness.
    Here's a good documentary on him

    http://www.bloomberg.com/video/73780...sk-takers.html

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    Keep fighting the good fight, sir. I will never understand how the people don't support this guy, but that is a lie as I know that collectively people are pretty stupid.

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    Boras is the best because he understands and is willing to use whatever leverage he can. It use to be leveraging team against team and now it's fan base v. Team. Right now, right or wrong, there is a HUGE amount of fans in Houston, Chicago and New York that completely agree with every word Boras just said and if the weren't before may now start to become more vocal about it. Now all three FO's are too intelligent to give in to such however he's brilliant for Appling the pressure regardless..,

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    Boras is destined for the Marvin Miller treatment when it comes to the HOF btw...yet another thing that irks me about his legacy.

    Nice response by Alderson, but you got it BRUH. You have arguably the best new stadium in the game, you have role players, you have a couple of really nice young arms, you have Wright....and that's where that roster ends. After Wright and Harvey they lack stars, and it's not because their farm system is not doing it's job.

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    He just mad the Mets/Cubs/Rays and Astros won't play his game. Take your ball and go home then, Mr. Boras.
    Screw sabermetics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluefire View Post
    He just mad the Mets/Cubs/Rays and Astros won't play his game. Take your ball and go home then, Mr. Boras.
    It's not exactly a service to the fans, sport, and players that they refuse to play the game. It's not a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    It's not exactly a service to the fans, sport, and players that they refuse to play the game. It's not a good thing.
    That's totally, 100% subjective.





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    Also, as I said in the OP, I completely understand Boras' angle here. I mean it couldn't be more obvious. My issue is, what advantage does he stake in rambling about NASA and Disneyland? Make the point you want to make, but do so clearly. While there's a ton of fans of these teams out there that agree with the principle of what he's saying here, I'd wager there's a large percentage of them that aren't even being afforded the opportunity to agree because they have no idea what in the blue hell he's saying.





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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    Also, as I said in the OP, I completely understand Boras' angle here. I mean it couldn't be more obvious. My issue is, what advantage does he stake in rambling about NASA and Disneyland? Make the point you want to make, but do so clearly. While there's a ton of fans of these teams out there that agree with the principle of what he's saying here, I'd wager there's a large percentage of them that aren't even being afforded the opportunity to agree because they have no idea what in the blue hell he's saying.
    What could he say that would come off any better?

    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    That's totally, 100% subjective.
    It unfortunately and admittedly does lack the research right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    What could he say that would come off any better?
    Doesn't it seem like being very matter-of-fact about it would apply a lot more pressure to these organizations than beating around the bush with vague, obscure similes?

    Reading this as someone who's fully aware what he's getting it, I still had trouble making sense of the comparisons. I can't imagine what it's like for your average (sorry not sorry) idiot fan. The whole angle is to rile up the impatient, uninformed, and uneducated - well....know your audience, Scott.





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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    What could he say that would come off any better?
    Pretty much anything not involving astronaut puns or allusions to Charles Dickens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by turnaround3 View Post
    Doesn't it seem like being very matter-of-fact about it would apply a lot more pressure to these organizations than beating around the bush with vague, obscure similes?

    Reading this as someone who's fully aware what he's getting it, I still had trouble making sense of the comparisons. I can't imagine what it's like for your average (sorry not sorry) idiot fan. The whole angle is to rile up the impatient, uninformed, and uneducated - well....know your audience, Scott.
    That would only lay more emphasis on the angle that he's feeling desperate. It still would not go over well because of who is saying it and why.

    OTOH I may have jumped the gun in this thread. OTOOH, buy a player Cubs.
    Last edited by SenorGato; 11-14-2013 at 01:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorGato View Post
    That would only lay more emphasis on the angle that he's feeling desperate. It still would not go over well because of who is saying it and why.
    Right, to some extent nothing that comes out of Boras' mouth will ever go over well in certain sects.

    Still...I think he'd have been better served without "They have big rockets, a lot of platforms and very few astronauts."





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