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    The problem has been the offense

    Everyone keeps talking about the defense, etc. But the problem has been the offense so far.

    Contrary to what Woodson recently said, the problem HAS been the offense. Poor offensive possessions have led to poor defensive possessions and easy baskets for the other team.

    No one looks like they are "in the flow of the offense".

    We are average fewer assists, more turnovers.

    All these bad possessions are leading to more mismatches on defense and excessive fouling.

    What needs to happen is simple: We need to develop some continuity on offense in the worst way. Good possessions on offense will allow us to get back and set our defense (which has not been as bad as people make it out to be). We are 3rd in the league overall in pts/game given up and even without Chandler we held Charlotte to 38pts in the second half last game.

    The real issue has been Woodson's unwillingness to develop a rotation and sets without JR Smith. He has been reluctant to commit to anything and it has killed this team. And the only thing that fits this quizzical puzzle is that he is waiting for JR. Nothing else makes sense.

    We didn't commit to establishing Chandler early (like last season). We didn't commit to Bargnani as the second option. We didn't commit to Shumpert having a bigger offensive role. Woodson has not made 1 single decision. And that indecision is creating doubt and uncertainty in the players' minds and leading to poor execution and poor offensive possessions.

    The poor offense is killing us in another way. The other team doesn't expend a lot of energy defending us. The relax and play easy defense, wait for the iso play or turnover and then they push the ball.

    Our OFFENSE is killing us right now.

    Everything that has been killing this team gets lessened with better executed, more clearly defined roles and responsibilities, more efficient offense.

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    I agree. Start Prigs.

    This **** ain't rocket science. If it works, than ****ing use it. That **** works.
    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    our coach sux thats it



    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86 View Post
    Jared Dudley>>>>>>Melo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by east fb knicks View Post
    our coach sux thats it
    Gripe with his playoff series last year all you want - but can you explain how a ****** coach can have such a terrific record over a full season and a half with a team that clearly overachieved last year given its shortage of elite talent and injuries?

    We were 72-34 with Woodson. A team that our previous coach couldn't even muster up .500 with. A team with no second star whatsoever, and whose #1 star is probably the most flawed #1 of any 50 win team in the league. This is a results biz and Woody has been damn good for us despite his crappy series against Indy where our entire team went ice cold.
    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksFan4Years View Post
    The real issue has been Woodson's unwillingness to develop a rotation and sets without JR Smith. He has been reluctant to commit to anything and it has killed this team. And the only thing that fits this quizzical puzzle is that he is waiting for JR. Nothing else makes sense.
    Quote Originally Posted by east fb knicks View Post
    our coach sux thats it
    There is no unwillingness to anything. You do the same **** as last year. You end up with the same stupid result. Maybe not now, maybe not a couple of weeks from now, but eventually it ends up the same way.

    Why commit to anything now??? Does anyone except Melo and Chandler deserve their minutes???? ANYONE?!?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    Gripe with his playoff series last year all you want - but can you explain how a ****** coach can have such a terrific record over a full season and a half with a team that clearly overachieved last year given its shortage of elite talent and injuries?

    We were 72-34 with Woodson. A team that our previous coach couldn't even muster up .500 with. A team with no second star whatsoever, and whose #1 star is probably the most flawed #1 of any 50 win team in the league. This is a results biz and Woody has been damn good for us despite his crappy series against Indy where our entire team went ice cold.
    ok if he turns it around thats all good and i know jr is our 2nd best player but dam yo if you take wade from mia or westy from the thunder they could beat the bobcats everybody knows woody is good at d but sux at o and if he doesn't get it together he's gone karl would be a major upgrade heck any coach that could run an offense besides dantoni right now i'd even take del negro either that or hire an offensive assistant



    Quote Originally Posted by Clippersfan86 View Post
    Jared Dudley>>>>>>Melo.

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    The problem has been Melo chucking it up ALL the time... offense is a team effort... not give it to Melo and sit back and watch... Coaches fault as this is all he has for a game plan... "hey guys here is the plan... Give it to Melo and go... all in... and 123 go Knicks!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by east fb knicks View Post
    ok if he turns it around thats all good and i know jr is our 2nd best player but dam yo if you take wade from mia or westy from the thunder they could beat the bobcats everybody knows woody is good at d but sux at o and if he doesn't get it together he's gone karl would be a major upgrade heck any coach that could run an offense besides dantoni right now i'd even take del negro either that or hire an offensive assistant
    We had a top 3 offense last season.
    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    Gripe with his playoff series last year all you want - but can you explain how a ****** coach can have such a terrific record over a full season and a half with a team that clearly overachieved last year given its shortage of elite talent and injuries?

    We were 72-34 with Woodson. A team that our previous coach couldn't even muster up .500 with. A team with no second star whatsoever, and whose #1 star is probably the most flawed #1 of any 50 win team in the league. This is a results biz and Woody has been damn good for us despite his crappy series against Indy where our entire team went ice cold.
    Despite agreeing with your points here, its interesting to see your opinion on 'Melo constantly change with the weather, depending on the debate you're having and who you're having it with.

    Not long ago, you diminished Tyson's impact, acting like those 54 wins were entirely on 'Melo's shoulders. ("JR is our second best player" lmfao ok) Here, in a different conversation, you take a swipe at 'Melo to elevate Woodson's impact. Having your cake and eating it? You CAN'T think very highly of 'Melo if you TRULY believe what you say in this post.

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    Main reason for the struggles

    I strongly believe the main reason the knicks are struggling like this is because Of Carmelo's attitude. He just looks like he doesn't give a damn & it's rubbing off on the rest of the team, because it's not like they're losing because they aren't good enough, they just aren't playing hard at all.

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    But Melos a star, he called a players only meeting about effort

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    My main reason is woody and when it comes to melo if he can't get his stuff together then he can go to!

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    Main reason for the struggles

    I think because were such passionate fans we think our team is better than we actually are ... This is probably what we'll be all year

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deem_NY View Post
    I think because were such passionate fans we think our team is better than we actually are ... This is probably what we'll be all year
    This. Many if us overrated this team. They aren't good

    #TapeTwoOne....Oh Gawd

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    Quote Originally Posted by meloman1592 View Post
    This. Many if us overrated this team. They aren't good
    o stop... a 54 win team that adds Bargs, MWP, Beno, Kmart, healthy Shump, THJR isn't "good"?

    Melo does go through these stretches where he looks like a big baby out there, and I do think it rubs off, kinda like Marbury.

    But at the same time we're just trying to incorporate a lot of new players right now... a lot of teams struggle early in the year.

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