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    Wedge out as Mariners Manager -- In as Twins?

    An external option just opened up -- Eric Wedge has informed Seattle that he is not interested in returning.
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/97...e-mariners-mlb
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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    An external option just opened up -- Eric Wedge has informed Seattle that he is not interested in returning.
    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/97...e-mariners-mlb
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    I would preferably like to bring Gardy back. However that would be contingent on some major staffing changes. Rick Andersen has to go. Although I think Rick has been an overall decent pitching coach over the years someone has to be a scapegoat. However, if Gardy is not going to return I think it would be best to make a thorough search instead of just jumping into Wedge.

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    I can't hold management (at the coaching level) to blame. I just can't do it. Gardy and Anderson shouldn't lose their jobs for not having the ability to coach a AAA team against MLB talent. If I was one of them and was fired I'd have a hard time not asking who the next AAA coach would be... lol.
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    By the sounds of it Ken Rosenthal (a very legitimate MLB source) noted this morning he has heard the Twins WILL retain Ron Gardenhire in what is believed to be a 2 year contract extension. In my opinion, this was the right move. Changing managers is not going to turn this team around right now so consistency is a good thing. No word on Anderson or other bench coaches yet.

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    If Gardy goes, the common thought that I keep reading is that we need change and someone from outside the organization. Gene Glenn in not the insider that everyone thinks. He has behind the scenes "shakin things up a little" and is not a retread. He has not been afraid to question Gardy and even TK with how certain things are done. This is a very solid baseball man that all in Rochester enjoyed playing for.

    Gene Glenn, even though he is inside the organization, is the change that many seek.

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    Gardy has officially turned into the turning point manager. He'll manage for the next two years and when the minor league talent starts producing for the major league team he'll be fired for a new "winning" manager. Anyone want to wage a bet?
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    I really wish we would have done a big turnover from top to bottom in management and coaching after this recent season...The "Twins way" just isnt the right way anymore...and even when it was the right way, it wasnt good enough for the playoffs.

    I have a serious concern with how the Twins handle their top prospects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSU Tony View Post
    Gardy has officially turned into the turning point manager. He'll manage for the next two years and when the minor league talent starts producing for the major league team he'll be fired for a new "winning" manager. Anyone want to wage a bet?
    Like when TK turned the team over to Ron? Kind of similar, even though TK didnt get fired. But TK was the manager during the last big youth movement by the Twins, and then when those players were finally MLB caliber players, Gardenhire took over, and rattled off a solid decade in the conference.

    Also, I wouldnt take your bet. All things point to that happening...Sano, Buxton, Meyers, Hicks, etc...will turn the corner in what? two years? and surprise! Gardy's extension is two years. Maybe won't get fired, just won't get extended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    I really wish we would have done a big turnover from top to bottom in management and coaching after this recent season...The "Twins way" just isnt the right way anymore...and even when it was the right way, it wasnt good enough for the playoffs.

    I have a serious concern with how the Twins handle their top prospects.
    I would disagree, you may not be old enough to remember when we won the world series - fortunately and unfortunately I am that old.

    The Twin's way as I "knew" it was a lot like the Cardinals today. Draft well, coach up your players in the minors and win with pitching, great defense and good (not great) hitting. Unfortunatly we got away from drafting players with great "tools" for a few years and we have paid for it. Also the fundamentals have suffered for some reason in the minors which used to be our strength. Getting back to that and with Ryan back on board understanding the talent "should" get us back to that point.

    Winning in the playoffs is a whole different story. You need GREAT pitching now along with good defense and solid offense. The pitching part is something we REALLY need to get straightened out to get back to being contenders on a regular basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleJesus View Post
    Like when TK turned the team over to Ron? Kind of similar, even though TK didnt get fired. But TK was the manager during the last big youth movement by the Twins, and then when those players were finally MLB caliber players, Gardenhire took over, and rattled off a solid decade in the conference.

    Also, I wouldnt take your bet. All things point to that happening...Sano, Buxton, Meyers, Hicks, etc...will turn the corner in what? two years? and surprise! Gardy's extension is two years. Maybe won't get fired, just won't get extended.
    We're on the same page. I should have phrased my bet different. Gardy won't be fired but he won't be extended. He'll manage the team until the next crop of prospects are ready then the team will be "fed up" with losing and he'll be out. Probably not fired but like you said, won't be extended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by specialiststeve View Post
    I would disagree, you may not be old enough to remember when we won the world series - fortunately and unfortunately I am that old.

    The Twin's way as I "knew" it was a lot like the Cardinals today. Draft well, coach up your players in the minors and win with pitching, great defense and good (not great) hitting. Unfortunatly we got away from drafting players with great "tools" for a few years and we have paid for it. Also the fundamentals have suffered for some reason in the minors which used to be our strength. Getting back to that and with Ryan back on board understanding the talent "should" get us back to that point.

    Winning in the playoffs is a whole different story. You need GREAT pitching now along with good defense and solid offense. The pitching part is something we REALLY need to get straightened out to get back to being contenders on a regular basis.
    I was 6 when they won the World Series...old enough to remember it, young enough to not really know anything about it.

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