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    Do the Giants have any chance to win this division while Kasten/Magic are in charge or will the Dodgers own this division for years?

    The Giants can't compete financially, they can't develop talent.
    So Anna, what do you think about the notion that Russell Wilson is better than Andrew Luck?

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    Everything runs in cycles and the Giants can and will be competitive for a long while. The Giants should have never been as bad as they were in Bonds' last years and the ones right after he retired. Sabean dropped the ball big time back then.

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    **** the Dodgers, that is all.



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    They have plenty of money to compete

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgiants5518 View Post
    Do the Giants have any chance to win this division while Kasten/Magic are in charge or will the Dodgers own this division for years?

    The Giants can't compete financially, they can't develop talent.
    They've got a payroll of $140 million, that's plenty to compete. The Dodgers are only going to win like 92 games this year, hardly a scarey team. And they can't develop talent? Do we really need to go down a list of the accomplishments of the guys they've brought up since 2006? Multiple Cy Youngs, MVPs, Rookie of the years, All Star appearances, etc? Not to mention two championships.

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    Man today seemed like Major Leaguers vs. Minor Leaguers. The team is as bad as its ever been. Pure Garbage. Sabean might not do much to this team even though it needs a massive overhaul. The current team can't pitch, can't field, and can't hit. One of the worst teams in all of baseball and their record proves it.
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    It does not need a massive overhaul.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ntd View Post
    They've got a payroll of $140 million, that's plenty to compete. The Dodgers are only going to win like 92 games this year, hardly a scarey team. And they can't develop talent? Do we really need to go down a list of the accomplishments of the guys they've brought up since 2006? Multiple Cy Youngs, MVPs, Rookie of the years, All Star appearances, etc? Not to mention two championships.
    Posey was the most polished major league ready player in the draft. And that's their only hitter that's had big time success. Want to go down the list of all the failed offensive prospects?

    They do develop pitching quite nicely though.
    So Anna, what do you think about the notion that Russell Wilson is better than Andrew Luck?

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    Depends on if Brian Sabean continues to take ****ing winter long naps all offseason again, or if he will actually do his job and try and improve the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ntd View Post
    They've got a payroll of $140 million, that's plenty to compete. The Dodgers are only going to win like 92 games this year, hardly a scarey team. And they can't develop talent? Do we really need to go down a list of the accomplishments of the guys they've brought up since 2006? Multiple Cy Youngs, MVPs, Rookie of the years, All Star appearances, etc? Not to mention two championships.
    This is an excellent post.

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    He really does have a chance to make this team better this offseason. If we bring back Pence it better be nowhere near Either type of contract. He needs to get Choo or Ellsbury. A solid 4th outfielder would be great to have that can at least somewhat hit the ball. We could also use a solid backup middle infielder that can play 2nd and 3rd. A 5th pitcher needs to also be a priority and there are some good options in FA this year. Throw in a few BP arms and this team can be much better next year. The Lack of bench depth and trying to play all year with no LF really hurt us this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfgiants5518 View Post
    Posey was the most polished major league ready player in the draft. And that's their only hitter that's had big time success. Want to go down the list of all the failed offensive prospects?

    They do develop pitching quite nicely though
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    These two things are intertwined, they like the dodgers have used most of their early picks on pitching. The best hitter that the dodgers drafted and brought along is Matt Kemp, who was taken in the 5th round, everyone else was signed in FA or traded for.

    While they didn't draft Pablo, they signed and developed him. Even with his recent struggles he is an obvious success, I think Belt is a success to.
    You get good at what you focus on in life, and the giants have focused on pitching which up until now has been great.
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    Speaking of capitalism prevailing, the dodgers had scouts watching Tanakas last start, if they sign him it makes some of their minor leauge pitching available for trading.

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