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    Angels may go after Ma-Kun from Japan!

    The Los Angeles Angels recently scouted Masahiro Tanaka and are considering a pursuit of the undefeated Japanese pitcher this offseason the Los Angeles Times reported.

    The Angels had a scout in Japan last week to watch Tanaka who could cost the team a posting fee of $25 million according to the paper.

    Tanaka set a Japanese professional baseball record for consecutive victories in a season by winning his 21st straight decision last Friday.

    Angels starters entered Tuesday with a 4.37 ERA the eighth-worst mark in the majors and Jason Vargas Jerome Williams and Tommy Hanson all are scheduled to be free agents this offseason.

    Tanaka improved to 21-0 with a complete-game win in the Rakuten Eagles' 6-2 victory over the Orix Buffaloes. The previous record of 20 was set in 1957 by Kazuhisa Inao.

    The last time Tanaka took a loss was Aug. 19 2012. Since then the right-hander has won 25 straight one more than the Major League Baseball mark set by Carl Hubbell of the New York Giants in 1936-37.

    Many in Japan are suggesting that Tanaka 24 will pursue an MLB career after the season a move that would make him the most sought-after Japanese export since Yu Darvish.
    This guy makes Yu Darvish look like Joe Blanton. He is without a doubt one of the best pitchers in Japan for the past since I was born years. Get him!
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    I don't know why you shortend it to Ma-Kun and he isn't as good as Darvish, he looks like a possible number two or three starter and the posting fee shouldn't be as high as Darvish's was, something between Yu's fifty million and Ryu's twenty five million.
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    Darvish

    2009 Age 22 G 23 IP 182 H/9 5.8 ERA 1.73 K/9 8.3 BB/9 2.2 WHIP 0.90
    2010 Age 23 G 26 IP 202 H/9 7.0 ERA 1.78 K/9 9.9 BB/9 2.1 WHIP 1.02
    2011 Age 24 G 28 IP 232 H/9 6.1 ERA 1.44 K/9 10.7 BB/9 1.4 WHIP 0.83

    Tanaka

    2011 Age 22 G 27 IP 226 H/9 6.8 ERA 1.27 K/9 9.6 BB/9 1.1 WHIP 0.88
    2012 Age 23 G 22 IP 173 H/9 8.3 ERA 1.87 K/9 8.8 BB/9 1.0 WHIP 1.04
    2013 Age 24 G 23 IP 181 H/9 7.1 ERA 1.24 K/9 7.7 BB/9 1.3 WHIP 0.93


    Darvish got 6 years 56M and the Rangers paid a 51.7M posting fee
    Ryu got 6 years 36M and the Dodgers paid 25.7M posting fee

    So lets just say Tanaka gets right in the middle of that. You are looking at

    6 years 46M and a 38M posting fee. So ends up being 6 years 84M (14M per year).

    If his floor is around Kuroda sign me up. In Kuroda's 6 years in the big leagues he has been paid 72.3M, and there was no posting fee for him
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    Do you know if the price of the posting fee is paid immediately after the player is signed, or is it broken up into payments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban View Post
    Do you know if the price of the posting fee is paid immediately after the player is signed, or is it broken up into payments.
    This is from Cots on Darvish

    Texas won negotiating rights 12/19/11 with bid of $51,703,411 after Darvish was posted by Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters (Texas must pay entire posting fee by 1/23/12)
    There is nothing like that on Ryu or Dice-K.




    This is all my speculation but when you win negotiation rights you have 30 days to work out a deal, the Rangers got a little bit more than that but we will just assume that was because of the holidays. So I'm guessing when those 30 days are up you have to pay the posting fee. That is why if teams are unable to work out a deal they just let the player return because they don't want to pay the money and then get stuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban View Post
    I don't know why you shortend it to Ma-Kun and he isn't as good as Darvish, he looks like a possible number two or three starter and the posting fee shouldn't be as high as Darvish's was, something between Yu's fifty million and Ryu's twenty five million.
    Ma-Kun is his nickname in Japan and more people know him by this here than his real name. Also this year the NPB, without informing the players or teams, changed the size of the baseball to a lighter type which has led to many players having high batting averages and homeruns compared to when Darvish was playing. He has a high number of wins and low ERA despite this.
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    They are tinkering with top 3 bids and he will pick the team he wants to sign with. If you win the bid and right to negotiate, you have to pay, period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Suns4ever67 View Post
    They are tinkering with top 3 bids and he will pick the team he wants to sign with. If you win the bid and right to negotiate, you have to pay, period.
    IDK if it's just straight the three highest bids your goal would be to have exactly the third highest bid, because you would have less committed, and potentially more to give the player, i think there will be some changes to the way that bidding is done to give teams incentive to have the highest bid.

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    Originally Posted by ciaban
    I don't know why you shortend it to Ma-Kun and he isn't as good as Darvish, he looks like a possible number two or three starte
    Not that good huh?
    Last edited by Angels4Ever; 06-20-2014 at 10:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angels4Ever View Post
    Not that good huh?
    He isn't as good as Darvish, he only has half a season so far, I don't know why your dredging this up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban View Post
    He isn't as good as Darvish, he only has half a season so far, I don't know why your dredging this up?
    Cause he is from Japan.

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