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  • Lamarcus Aldridge

    32 50.79%
  • Tiago Splitter

    0 0%
  • Pau Gasol

    4 6.35%
  • Amare Stoudemire

    2 3.17%
  • Ersan Ilyasova

    0 0%
  • Kevin Garnett

    4 6.35%
  • Serge Ibaka

    0 0%
  • David Lee

    9 14.29%
  • Zach Randolph

    7 11.11%
  • Josh Smith

    0 0%
  • Paul Millsap

    0 0%
  • David West

    1 1.59%
  • Ryan Anderson

    0 0%
  • Carlos Boozer

    0 0%
  • Anthony Davis

    3 4.76%
  • Kenneith Faried

    1 1.59%
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    6th Annual PSD Player Rankings #4 PF In The NBA? (Volume: VI)

    Hey guys, It is that time of year again! Once again we kick of the PSD NBA Off-Season Player Rankings. This is the 6th year I have done this on PSD and it always brings some great discussion and debate. Please keep things civil and discuss who you feel is most fitting and deserving of being voted in each poll.

    A lot has changed since last season. Lebron James and the Miami Heat are back to back NBA champions after an exciting 7 game series win over the Spurs. Let start the discussion since lots has changed since the start of last season. Please TRY AND VOTE FOR THE BEST PLAYER AND DON'T BE A HOMER. I will leave the poll open for one day and than we can carry on to the next best player at that position. I will add more players after each round. I have also included the results of those last 5 years so everyone can see how much things have changed...Enjoy.

    Due to some people complaining that the rule was not written for the PG poll; in order to be eligible for these rankings, players must of played in 10 or more games last season. Thank you.


    REMEMBER this is based on who is the best player, not the player who has the potential to be the best


    MHC TOP 16 PF COMPARISON (Advanced Statistics)

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    Player 	         Season     	Age 	G 	MP 	PER 	TS% 	eFG% 	ORB% 	DRB% 	TRB% 	AST% 	STL% 	BLK% 	TOV% 	USG% 	ORtg 	DRtg 	OWS 	DWS 	WS 	WS/48
    
    L. Aldridge     2012-13       	27 	74 	2790 	20.4 	.530 	.485 	7.2 	20.9 	14.0 	13.0 	1.2 	2.5 	8.9 	26.5 	108 	107 	4.8 	2.3 	7.2 	.124
    Pau Gasol 	2012-13 	32 	49 	1655 	16.7 	.512 	.473 	7.6 	20.1 	14.0 	19.9 	0.7 	2.7 	13.7 	20.5 	107 	106 	2.0 	1.7 	3.7 	.107
    Ersan Ilyasova 	2012-13 	25      73 	2012 	18.3 	.552 	.521 	7.9 	20.3 	13.9 	9.6 	1.7 	1.3 	7.9 	20.5 	114 	104 	4.1 	2.5 	6.7 	.159
    Kevin Garnett 	2012-13 	36 	68 	2022 	19.2 	.535 	.498 	4.5 	25.8 	15.5 	14.4 	2.0 	2.4 	10.5 	24.5 	104 	99 	1.8 	3.8 	5.6 	.133
    Serge Ibaka 	2012-13 	23 	80 	2486 	19.4 	.612 	.586 	11.1 	17.0 	14.2 	2.8 	0.6 	7.4 	12.7 	18.1 	117 	101 	5.3 	4.1 	9.4 	.181
    David Lee 	2012-13 	29 	79 	2907 	19.2 	.561 	.519 	8.5 	24.5 	16.8 	16.5 	1.2 	0.6 	13.7 	23.2 	110 	104 	5.4 	3.7 	9.1 	.150
    Zach Randolph 	2012-13 	31 	76 	2607 	17.9 	.506 	.461 	13.8 	25.1 	19.3 	7.3 	1.3 	1.0 	11.5 	23.1 	106 	99 	3.2 	4.7 	7.9 	.145
    Josh Smith 	2012-13 	27 	76 	2683 	17.7 	.501 	.491 	5.8 	21.3 	13.6 	20.9 	1.8 	3.9 	14.6 	26.7 	97 	101 	-0.3 	4.5 	4.2 	.075
    David West 	2012-13 	32 	73 	2435 	20.1 	.545 	.500 	6.8 	18.8 	12.9 	16.8 	1.6 	2.1 	12.0 	24.4 	110 	99 	4.4 	4.7 	9.1 	.179
    Ryan Anderson 	2012-13 	24 	81 	2503 	18.1 	.548 	.519 	8.9 	15.9 	12.4 	6.9 	0.9 	1.0 	7.5 	24.0 	114 	112 	5.7 	0.8 	6.5 	.125
    Carlos Boozer 	2012-13 	31 	79 	2546 	17.1 	.510 	.477 	7.8 	27.2 	17.4 	13.4 	1.4 	0.8 	12.3 	25.8 	101 	100 	1.4 	4.3 	5.7 	.108
    Anthony Davis 	2012-13 	19 	64 	1846 	21.7 	.559 	.516 	10.5 	23.5 	16.8 	6.1 	2.2 	5.1 	10.3 	21.8 	113 	104 	3.7 	2.4 	6.1 	.159
    Kenneth Faried 	2012-13 	23 	80 	2248 	18.5 	.573 	.552 	13.2 	23.2 	18.3 	5.1 	1.8 	2.9 	12.3 	17.7 	116 	102 	4.5 	3.4 	7.8 	.167
    Paul Millsap 	2012-13 	27 	78 	2375 	19.8 	.550 	.498 	8.6 	18.8 	13.7 	14.5 	2.3 	2.7 	11.8 	22.4 	112 	104 	4.8 	2.9 	7.6 	.154
    Tiago Splitter 	2012-13 	28 	81 	1997 	18.7 	.609 	.560 	8.8 	20.3 	14.9 	10.0 	1.6 	2.3 	12.7 	18.2 	118 	100 	4.7 	3.5 	8.2 	.197
    A. Stoudemire   2012-13     	30 	29 	682 	22.1 	.637 	.577 	10.0 	15.1 	12.4 	3.6 	0.8 	2.7 	13.4 	25.7 	118 	108 	2.1 	0.6 	2.7 	.191

    2013 Off-Season PSD PF Rankings


    1) Kevin Love
    2) Blake Griffin
    3) Dirk Nowitzki
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    2012 Off-Season PSD PF Rankings

    1) Kevin Love
    2) Dirk Nowitzki
    3) LaMarcus Aldridge
    4) Chris Bosh
    5) Pau Gasol
    6) Blake Griffin
    7) Josh Smith
    8) Zach Randolph
    9) Amare Stoudemire
    10) Paul Millsap

    2011 Off-Season PF Rankings

    1) Dirk Nowitzki
    2) Amare Stoudemire
    3) Pau Gasol
    4) Zach Randolph
    5) Chris Bosh
    6) LaMarcus Aldridge
    7) Kevin Love
    8) Blake Griffin
    9) Kevin Garnett
    10) Josh Smith

    2010 Off-Season PF Rankings

    1) Pau Gasol
    2) Dirk Nowitzki
    3) Tim Duncan
    4) Chris Bosh
    5) Amare Stoudemire
    6) Carlos Boozer
    7) Kevin Garnett
    8) Josh Smith
    9) David Lee
    10) Zach Randolph

    2009 Off-Season PF Rankings

    1) Tim Duncan
    2) Kevin Garnett
    3) Dirk Nowitzki
    4) Chris Bosh
    5) Amare Stoudemire
    6) Pau Gasol
    7) Carlos Boozer
    8) Antawn Jamison
    9) Rashard Lewis
    10) David West

    2008 Off-Season PF rankings

    1) Tim Duncan
    2) Kevin Garnett
    3) Amare Stoudemire
    4) Chris Bosh
    5) Dirk Nowitzki
    6) Elton Brand
    7) Carlos Boozer
    8) Pau Gasol
    9) Antawn Jamison
    10) David West
    Last edited by Mile High Champ; 08-18-2013 at 12:44 PM.

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    For me this is where things get wide open and I am not sold on LMA here at all. Can make an argument for Ibaka, Lee, Gasol, ZBO and even West here.

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    I honestly think KG should get some love here. His defense is still probably tops at the position.
    The value of elite scoring ability, by Phil Jackson:

    "This is a guy, we recognize his talent, and his skill is the kind of skill and talent that gets you through playoff games where things get sticky, grind-out, and basketball becomes a force game and suddenly you need to have a player who has the capabilities of scoring with someone hanging on them in a situation thatís critical. Heís one of those players, one of the few players who can do that.Ē

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    I don't really know if Ibaka should make top 10 yet. Him AD and Faried are all the next gen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ebbs View Post
    I don't really know if Ibaka should make top 10 yet. Him AD and Faried are all the next gen
    Ibaka and Davis both have a case for top 10 certainly. Would rather have both those guys over David Lee personally just for next season.

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    yeah, I think Ibaka starts to merit votes starting now. i think he's probably the best defender left at the position.
    I'm going Davis because he actually had a great season and he's working out big time and getting bigger. i dont think its crazy to say he's 4th best today although I understand why 90% of you think that vote is a reach. i voted him more so because the next 4-5 guys are practically interchangeable, and nobody else left on the board is so dominant that they HAVE to be picked here, IMO.

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    Accidentally hit Pau

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    I think I'm going with KG. 15 & 8, 2.3apg in less than 30mpg, solid efficiency, and probably the best two way PF on this list.

    My only thing is, I'm not sure at 37-38 next year he can continue to be that good.

    Lee's overall offensive numbers are better than LMA's, and he did so on a winning team.

    Tough call...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mile High Champ View Post
    For me this is where things get wide open and I am not sold on LMA here at all. Can make an argument for Ibaka, Lee, Gasol, ZBO and even West here.
    I think Garnett should be in the center voting, because he's been playing there for the past few years. Also, BR and several other sites have him listed as a center.

    Either way, he's definitely in the conversation with the guys you mentioned. He leads all of them in RAMP, but in other advanced stats they're close. The link below is comparing all of them last season.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...stda01&y6=2013

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    Its Lee time now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_Monster View Post
    I think Garnett should be in the center voting, because he's been playing there for the past few years. Also, BR and several other sites have him listed as a center.

    Either way, he's definitely in the conversation with the guys you mentioned. He leads all of them in RAMP, but in other advanced stats they're close. The link below is comparing all of them last season.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/...stda01&y6=2013
    he'll be playing PF next season next to Brook Lopez. the ratings have an emphasis on right now, although he has played center since the Perkins trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruno87 View Post
    he'll be playing PF next season next to Brook Lopez. the ratings have an emphasis on right now, although he has played center since the Perkins trade.
    Oh, okay. Either way, he's definitely a top 10 PF/C and probably higher. I'm not sure where PSD will rank him, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green_Monster View Post
    Oh, okay. Either way, he's definitely a top 10 PF/C and probably higher. I'm not sure where PSD will rank him, though.
    I think he still has top ten abilities too. although with how stacked the Nets are, his numbers might not reflect top ten impact at the end of the season (he'll probably also see way less minutes than any of these guys because of his age). But yea, KGs got top ten abilities despite the fact that hes going into year 19? WOW. He's been in the league for so long, such a talent.

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    LA here. damn number 2 seems high for blake, but i guess i can't really put anyone else over him off the top of my head.

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