Discuss trades & FA targets here
Discuss trades & FA targets here
2014-2015 New York Knicks
definitely don't want to trade for a guy we can get in free agency in 2 years if it means giving up shumps. it's a pipe dream but novak, felton, shumps and multiple picks is too much to give up. we would be so thin next year it would be embarassing. if jr bolted, then hardaway would be our starting 2 guard.
So it's Felton's fault that Woodson's ISO system didn't work in the playoffs when the game slows down? Who could have predicted that? The entire forum did. To say that Felton isn't an "NBA starting PG" and that "he can't run our offense" is just beyond ridiculous.Originally Posted by VendettaRed07
We lost because we tried playing small against a team that makes their living on the offensive boards. We lost because we have an inept coach who is a complete moron when it comes to reading the game and making adjustments.
Chandler is irreplaceable on our team, if you can't see that, you know nothing about basketball. Sure, let's significantly downgrade at another position for a slight upgrade at a position where we already have a pretty good player on a very affordable contract (Felton).
If getting Rondo means trading Shump then so be it.
Lets get it!!!
I think either Shumo or jr are gone that's why Timmy's here ... Not that we wouldn't of drafted him if we had no one else on the board but I think jr or Shump possibly leaving is more of the reason we grabbed him..
Rondos added D and moving the ball would help us beat the heat and the pacers even with a lack of speed/size at the positions they have (LBJ with his break away plays or Well most the pacers lol) rondos D helps us and his speed with Shump and Timmy ..come on nvm what a threat melo is and would become ...MELO WOULD BE OPEN wow...
But idk what we'd afford to give away for just 1 guy when were already hamstrung thanks to stat .
Chandler gotta bad rap goin up against hibbert. Chandler is said to have lost 15 pounds after that illness at the end of the season. That's alotta weight and to drop it so suddenly, especially for a slender dude, I doubt his body feels 100% right now.
Still with the majority of the teams poor defending, which made Tyson's defense look even worse, we were in just about every game. I really think mike Woodson old skool ways of doing things, loyalty to certain players, and following playoff clichès really did us in.
All in all tho I think it was a learning experience for all parties involved and I wouldn't be ready to make whole sale changes. We aren't that far off, as bad as we played along with funny officiating IMO, we still coulda won that series idc what anybody says.
I think we should focus on adding to what we have. I like Byron Mullens, Ryan hollins, josh mcroberts, Shaun Livingston, will Bynum, all as pieces who could come in fit in and contribute. We should be able to sign 3-4 of em.
Last edited by quartz; 06-30-2013 at 12:14 AM.
Woodys iso offense comes out of necessity of not having a good play maker. No offensive scheme in the world is going to make felton or shump magically have great vision, or ability to handle the offense in a playoff scenario.
You don't need a top PG to win a title, but you need SOMEONE on your roster, capable of running the offense, or be able to dominate the ball. Which we don't. And we aren't getting one through some modest move or on a vet min.
With him and Felton and maybe prigs at pg wow , Shumo and Timmy nice , melo and company ? Lol Kmart hopefully and obviously Tc ..
Then the Udfas maybe someone looks amazing and we get someone unexpected to shine or well at least for the hole Udfa thing if they give us some time like 10-15 mins a game solid we will be amazing .
Knicks, Denver, Atlanta
Denver receives Tyson Chandler, Marcus Camby
Atlanta receives $5 million TE (instead of having $27.6 million, they now have $32.6 million in space) , 2016 NYK 1st round pick
Knicks receives Javale Mcgee, Wilson Chandler, Louis Williams, rights to Mike Muscala, 2014 Denver 2nd round pick *Denver gives us back our rights to 1st round pick 2016 no swapping*
PG Felton, Williams, Prigioni
SG Shumpert, Smith, Williams, Hardaway Jr
SF Chandler, Copeland, Novak
PF Anthony, Stoudemire, Blair
C Mcgee, Stoudemire, Muscala, Jordan
The rondo talks is a made up rumor. It has no legs.
If it did have legs, you would see a Knicks or celtics beat writer report it.
If Lakers lose out on Howard, dangling Amare to them would be a great idea.. Metta, Hill, Duhon
Lakers don't have the assets to trade for that "big name" player. Amare is far from that now, but Lakers are looking real desperate right now. They can sell to their fans of D'Antoni + Nash+ Amare...trying to relive the glory days.
Last edited by KnickVeteran; 06-30-2013 at 01:44 AM.
so we are interested in Lamar Odom, Elton Brand, Devin Harris, Will Bynum, and cj watson????
grunwald wtf bro... that aint gunna cut it
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Unless I'm wrong, Knicks could then turn around and acquire someone like Tyreke for the J.R TPE. It may be wishful thinking on my part, but it does open up our options this summer, somewhat.
We'd be hardcapped if we acquire Tyreke, or any current free agent, in any sort of sign and trade, right?
Even then I'd be willing to hard cap us for someone like Tyreke
Knicks bent on adding another PG due to Kidd's retirement
Bynum, Watson and Harris in the list
Regardless of Prigioni’s situation, the Knicks are bent on adding another point guard because of Jason Kidd’s retirement. The Pistons’ Will Bynum, Brooklyn’s C.J. Watson and and Atlanta’s Devin Harris are on the radar.