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    List your top 15 big board, and sprinkle in 3-5 sleepers

    Tough draft to do this, but this could be fun to come back to later next year, or even at the end of the year, and year 2, to see who either scouted well or lucked out.

    List your top 15 this year, and then throw in a few players you think may fall late 1st, or hell, maybe even into the 2nd round, that will be contributors.

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    This should be interesting.

    1. McLamore
    2. Porter
    3. Oladipo
    4. Burke
    5. Bennett
    6. Len
    7. Noel
    8. Zeller
    9. Caldwell-Pope
    10. Adetokunbo
    11.Carter-Williams
    12. Gobert
    13. Olynyk
    14. Saric
    15. Muhammed

    Sleepers (will be productive NBA players not in the Lotto)
    Withey, Dieng, Wolters

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    1. Noel
    2. McLemore
    3. Porter
    4. Oladipo
    5. Len
    6. McCollum
    7. Zeller
    8. Caldwell-Pope
    9. Muhammad
    10. Carter-Williams
    11. Burke
    12. Bennett
    13. Saric
    14. Gobert
    15. Olynik

    Sleepers- Steven Adams, Shane Larkin, Brandon Paul

    Props to phins1983

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    1. Noel
    2. McLemore
    3. Oladipo
    4. Zeller
    5. McCollum
    6. Porter
    7. Len
    8. Carter-Williams
    9. Burke
    10. Bennett
    11. Saric - Sleeper 1
    12. Caldwell-Pope
    13. Muhammad
    14. Larkin - Sleeper 2 - maybe not after the combine
    15. Leslie - Sleeper 3


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    1. Burke
    2. McLemore
    3. Noel
    4. Porter
    5. Oladipo
    6. Zeller
    7. McCollum
    8. Bennett
    9. Carter-Williams
    10. Plumlee
    11. Len
    12. Caldwell-Pope
    13. Muhammad
    14. Gobert
    15. Larkin

    Sleepers
    Schroeder
    Pierre Jackson
    Wolters
    Bj Young

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    1. Zeller: good hands, good feet, very active
    2. Len: Javale McGee with a brain
    3. McLemore: Ray Allen comparison is getting to KG levels of overuse
    4. Muhammad: I could be snake-bitten on this one, but I'm leaning towards him emulating Harden with decent results
    5. Burk: better version of Brandon Knight
    6. Oladipo: Luol Deng?
    7. Porter: solid all-around; something about him makes me think he belongs on the Pistons
    8. Noel: Griffin-like excitement on blocks but lean fragile frame and Tyson Chandler levels of improvement to make
    9. Dieng: Serge Ibaka comparisons are apt imo
    10. Caldwell-Pope
    11. Noguiera
    12. Olynyk: Kaman Lite; slightly less ugly as well
    13. McCollum: Foye 2.0
    14. Bennet: I see him falling and making an impact off someone's bench eventually
    15. Snell: Darius Miles vibe; decent 6th man or out of the league

    Sleepers:
    Archie Goodwin: talented slasher who needs a more mature and developed game
    Southerland: Steve Novak type shooting specialist
    Pierre Jackson: this year's winner for undersized scoring PG who just might make it but probably won't

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    1. Noel - highest potential in draft
    2. McLemore - great athlete, and great shooter, probably will be considered the favorite for ROY by mid-season because of his ability to score
    3. Otto Porter - He will do a little bit of everything for your team
    4. Alex Len - Tremendous size, good athletic ability, active player, works hard = no way he will be a bust
    5. Oladipo - If he adds an offensive scoring game, look out.
    6. Trey Burke - Will be another front runner for ROY, due to his scoring ability, and that whoever drafts him, will likely give him the keys to run the team right away
    7. Pope - Big time boom or bust player. With good coaching, he will excel.
    8. Cody Zeller - If he can adjust to playing PF, he will be a very good player for a decade or so
    9. Anthony Bennett - Tremendous skill set, but as the Wolves have witnessed first hand, tweener forwards have a hard time adjusting to the NBA
    10. McCollum, instant offense
    11. Shabazz Muhammad - Starting to warm up much more to him. I feel people are trying to find reasons to avoid him, much like people mistakenly made up excuses to not draft the previous years #1 highschool prospect Andre Drummond
    12. Kelly Olynyk - Will bring immediately to any team that drafts him, a highly efficient offensive game, as he is a great post presence. Shot 63% from the field, and 80% from the FT line. Has a lot of areas to work on to get consistent minutes, but his ceiling in the league is a highly efficient scorer.
    13. Tony Snell - Wes Johnson type skill-set...which really isnt a bad thing. Wes just couldnt put it together, maybe this guy can?
    14. Carter-Williams - If he develops a jump shot, he will be a steal. If he does not develop a jump shot, may be out of the NBA before the end of his rookie contract
    15. Tim Hardaway Jr - People already talk about how professional he is. He will come into the league, and will be ready to get to work right away.

    Sleepers - Bullock because of his tremendous ability to hit the three, Archie Goodwin because of his ability to drive and draw contact, and Rodney Williams because he is the most athletically gifted player in the draft
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    I am basing mine on the first 2 years they are in the league, a guy like Noel may help further down the line, but at 206 lbs and nearly 7 feet, he is roadkill early.

    1. McLemore- as topdog stated, the Ray Allen comparisons come about every year, they are annoying at this point. He reminds me more of Jason Richardson coming out of college.

    2. Trey Burke- he has lead guard written all over him. I see a mix between Kemba Walker, and a lesser Chris Paul type.

    3. Porter- I keep seeing Tayshuan Prince, and I don't mind the comparison, though I think he is undersold as a potential scorer.

    4. Cody Zeller- I don't buy too much into draft combine, but he showed elite athletic ability to be a face up 4, and has the size to fill out and play back to the basket. I can see him playing 28-30 mpg right away, and being effective.

    5. Nerlens Noel- He will be in foul trouble, won't produce much offense in year 1, but block some shots, and in year 2, assert himself a bit more. I think his year 2 can be comparable to Anthony Davis's year 1, slightly less effective.

    6. Victor Oladipo- Tony Allen clone.

    7. Alex Len- He has some basketball to learn, but is physically talented, and is a very good athlete, something that for sure helps in the NBA. Needs to develop, become a better rebounder, but he projects to be a starting center during his career.

    8. CJ McCollum- his hesitation and crossover dribbles get defenders falling over themselves. He will score at the NBA level, and do so effectively, he scored high in every facet of scoring in PPP. His problem will be on the defensive end, where his limited size will hurt some nights.

    9. Anthony Bennett- I am not as high as others on him. He seems like a Jason Maxeill type. Shows you how meh this draft really is.

    10. Kelly Olynyk- He will step right into a rotation, very efficient, but lacks athletic upside big time. Probably won't improve a lot during his career. I see Spencer Hawes comparisons, Hawes didn't have the exterior game but similar none the less.

    11. Dennis Schroeder- I like this kid for some reason, reminds me of Orlando Woolridge if any of you remember him from Iowa when Bobby Jackson stole Big Ten POY from him.

    12. Sergey Karasev- basically a slightly taller Shved, minus 4 years, but he is a bit stronger, and attacks the rim better, while looking to score.

    13. Shabazz Muhammad- I am down on him, but he can score. I just don't see anything more than a rotation player at best here.

    14. Mason Plumee- Decent midrange game, plays hard, just not all that talented. But he is big, versatile, and will find minutes.

    15. Michael Carter Williams- I HATE Cuse guards, but he is really long, can handle, and create off the dribble.

    Sleepers-

    Goodwin- as stated above, he can really get to the hoop. His shot is crap, but that can be developed. He reminds me of Tyreke Evans to some degree, without the passing game.

    Steven Adams- I would love if he were there with our 2nd pick. He is unpolished, but a deer in transition, plays hard, and just needs coaching.

    Glenn Rice, Jr- tore up the D-League, and while I question his understanding of the game, he is good in isolation, and a pure scorer. I think he finds his way into a rotation immediately.

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    1. Ben McLemore
    2. Otto Porter
    3. Nerlens Noel
    4. Cody Zeller
    5. Trey Burke
    6. Anthony Bennett
    7. Victor Olidipo
    8. Alex Len
    9. CJ McCollum
    10. Shabazz Muhammed
    11. Kent Caldwell-Pope
    12. Kelly Olynyk
    13. Mason Plummlee
    14. Michael Carter-Williams
    15. Tony Snell

    a few under rated players/picks i think will perform well is Steven Adams(big guy out of Pitt), Jeff Withey(big guy out of Kansas), Brandon Paul.. i know he isnt getting much hype.. but i think he has what it takes to be atleast a good back up on a good team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    I am basing mine on the first 2 years they are in the league, a guy like Noel may help further down the line, but at 206 lbs and nearly 7 feet, he is roadkill early.

    1. McLemore- as topdog stated, the Ray Allen comparisons come about every year, they are annoying at this point. He reminds me more of Jason Richardson coming out of college.

    2. Trey Burke- he has lead guard written all over him. I see a mix between Kemba Walker, and a lesser Chris Paul type.

    3. Porter- I keep seeing Tayshuan Prince, and I don't mind the comparison, though I think he is undersold as a potential scorer.

    4. Cody Zeller- I don't buy too much into draft combine, but he showed elite athletic ability to be a face up 4, and has the size to fill out and play back to the basket. I can see him playing 28-30 mpg right away, and being effective.

    5. Nerlens Noel- He will be in foul trouble, won't produce much offense in year 1, but block some shots, and in year 2, assert himself a bit more. I think his year 2 can be comparable to Anthony Davis's year 1, slightly less effective.

    6. Victor Oladipo- Tony Allen clone.

    7. Alex Len- He has some basketball to learn, but is physically talented, and is a very good athlete, something that for sure helps in the NBA. Needs to develop, become a better rebounder, but he projects to be a starting center during his career.

    8. CJ McCollum- his hesitation and crossover dribbles get defenders falling over themselves. He will score at the NBA level, and do so effectively, he scored high in every facet of scoring in PPP. His problem will be on the defensive end, where his limited size will hurt some nights.

    9. Anthony Bennett- I am not as high as others on him. He seems like a Jason Maxeill type. Shows you how meh this draft really is.

    10. Kelly Olynyk- He will step right into a rotation, very efficient, but lacks athletic upside big time. Probably won't improve a lot during his career. I see Spencer Hawes comparisons, Hawes didn't have the exterior game but similar none the less.

    11. Dennis Schroeder- I like this kid for some reason, reminds me of Orlando Woolridge if any of you remember him from Iowa when Bobby Jackson stole Big Ten POY from him.

    12. Sergey Karasev- basically a slightly taller Shved, minus 4 years, but he is a bit stronger, and attacks the rim better, while looking to score.

    13. Shabazz Muhammad- I am down on him, but he can score. I just don't see anything more than a rotation player at best here.

    14. Mason Plumee- Decent midrange game, plays hard, just not all that talented. But he is big, versatile, and will find minutes.

    15. Michael Carter Williams- I HATE Cuse guards, but he is really long, can handle, and create off the dribble.

    Sleepers-

    Goodwin- as stated above, he can really get to the hoop. His shot is crap, but that can be developed. He reminds me of Tyreke Evans to some degree, without the passing game.

    Steven Adams- I would love if he were there with our 2nd pick. He is unpolished, but a deer in transition, plays hard, and just needs coaching.

    Glenn Rice, Jr- tore up the D-League, and while I question his understanding of the game, he is good in isolation, and a pure scorer. I think he finds his way into a rotation immediately.
    Down on Caldwell-Pope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisman69 View Post
    Down on Caldwell-Pope?
    I am not. While he is better than McCollum defensively, KCP reminds me of less athletic version of Wes Johnson too much so I am a bit worried. He does have adequate handle and looks decent in man-to-man D.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisman69 View Post
    Down on Caldwell-Pope?
    yes I am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    yes I am.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisman69 View Post
    Why?
    He forces the issue too much, gets flustered by defenders, doesn't handle the ball so well, is not a great defender, and just has poor shot selection.

    For me at least, I don't think he makes much of an impact early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    He forces the issue too much, gets flustered by defenders, doesn't handle the ball so well, is not a great defender, and just has poor shot selection.

    For me at least, I don't think he makes much of an impact early.
    Fair enough. He is one prospect I go back-and-forth on, so I like hearing other people's opinions of him. I feel like he can make an NBA impact but probably as a starter, he just doesn't have the handle to get to the line.

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