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  1. #1
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    Fire Bryan Colangelo...

    Enough is Enough..time 2 go with new direction,this guy is like senator, how many chances does he deserve.
    Maple Leafs Enterprise fired Brian Burke on his poor performance..he got the axe.
    Bryan Colangelo has been with this franchise double that Brian Burke and he is still here,unbelievable.
    Time for him 2 move on and give someone else the ball.
    His made so many mistakes over his inception of GM of your Toronto Raptors, you've giving him plenty of time and no franchise deserves this..
    I like 2 see someone else run with it.
    This Franchise needs HOPE...

    Code:
    http://firebc.blogspot.ca/

    Thanks..
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    He's only been given like 2 chances. He got his first run that ended in 2010. He did fairly well overall so we gave him another shot to see how we can do post-Bosh.

    But yea, only an idiot would fire Colangelo. If they did, definitely don't deserve to be anywhere near a FO job at MLSE.

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    The Rudy contract and the Field/Klieza contracts overtime and Bargnani's implosion pretty much sealed his fate.

    Because of those moves we're going into next season with no room to operate and we'll just be another confused mid table team with too many average players and nothing to look forward to.

    I was for a while hoping that the Gay move would pan out, but opposing teams just needed a little time to figure us out which they have and then as a result you basically have a team that emphasizes defense but produces league average defense at best and no offensive structure to speak of.

    He's done and I feel sorry for the next GM who has to come in and clean up this mess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canzano55 View Post
    The Rudy contract and the Field/Klieza contracts overtime and Bargnani's implosion pretty much sealed his fate.

    Because of those moves we're going into next season with no room to operate and we'll just be another confused mid table team with too many average players and nothing to look forward to.

    I was for a while hoping that the Gay move would pan out, but opposing teams just needed a little time to figure us out which they have and then as a result you basically have a team that emphasizes defense but produces league average defense at best and no offensive structure to speak of.

    He's done and I feel sorry for the next GM who has to come in and clean up this mess.
    why would they look to fire him. he OBVIOUSLY got the go ahead to trade for gay, so it appears that everyone is on the same page.

    Things are about to get GAY in Toronto.

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    i wish we did but doubt it happens

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    We havent made the playoffs in 6 years and over that time weve been a bottom 5 team in payroll efficiency so you would be far from idiotic for firing BC.

    Basically every major move hes made so far has turned out to be a failure, drafting Bargs, trading for Jermaine O'neal, signing Hedo Turkoglu, getting practically nothing for Bosh, holding onto Bargnani well past the point of his value taking a nose-dive. hes drafted decently since the Bargnani screw up but his overall record as a GM since his first season is actually quite bad.

    The jury is out on how is latest moves will work in Lowry and Gay but early returns are far from impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHebrewHammer View Post
    We havent made the playoffs in 6 years and over that time weve been a bottom 5 team in payroll efficiency so you would be far from idiotic for firing BC.

    Basically every major move hes made so far has turned out to be a failure, drafting Bargs, trading for Jermaine O'neal, signing Hedo Turkoglu, getting practically nothing for Bosh, holding onto Bargnani well past the point of his value taking a nose-dive. hes drafted decently since the Bargnani screw up but his overall record as a GM since his first season is actually quite bad.

    The jury is out on how is latest moves will work in Lowry and Gay but early returns are far from impressive.
    Yes it would be idiotic. His contract expires in like 2 months. It's like buying out a expiring contract 2 months left in the season.

    Let him expire and move on if you can find a better GM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    Yes it would be idiotic. His contract expires in like 2 months. It's like buying out a expiring contract 2 months left in the season.

    Let him expire and move on if you can find a better GM.
    Bryan Colangelo also served as the president of the organization, theyre going to require a corporate change as well after firing B.C., might as well get started on that now. Although i believe B.C. has sold this organization on his snake oil and is gonna get his option picked up for some inexplicable reason.

    Beyond that there is literally 0 Colangelo can do for us for the rest of this season anyways so its not like hes earning his money, why not send a clear message down the organization that this season was totally unacceptable on every level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHebrewHammer View Post
    Bryan Colangelo also served as the president of the organization, theyre going to require a corporate change as well after firing B.C., might as well get started on that now. Although i believe B.C. has sold this organization on his snake oil and is gonna get his option picked up for some inexplicable reason.

    Beyond that there is literally 0 Colangelo can do for us for the rest of this season anyways so its not like hes earning his money, why not send a clear message down the organization that this season was totally unacceptable on every level.
    Why would MLSE pay extra money to fire BC and hire someone to run the organization for 2 months when BC is capable of serving the organization for the last 2 months. You said youself that BC can't affect the teams (with trades, etc). So might as well let him do paperwork the next 2 months running the organization.

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    Pick up any assistant GM from the Spurs and we're golden. They don't run an sports team, they run a ****ing training program for executives and coaches.

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    The successor to BC as GM is possibly Stefanski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    Why would MLSE pay extra money to fire BC and hire someone to run the organization for 2 months when BC is capable of serving the organization for the last 2 months. You said youself that BC can't affect the teams (with trades, etc). So might as well let him do paperwork the next 2 months running the organization.
    Personally don't think he is going to get fired, would like it but don't think he will. But to answer your question about why to do it now, it takes time to hire a gm and for him to get things going. If you wait until after the season to replace him you are going to have a situation where a gm is coming into the draft and free agency without any prep time at all, basically setting him up for early failure. The Raps did this when they hired Babcock, he didn't get hired until a week before the draft and then Mcloskey was left in charge of the draft because Babcock hadn't been there for any of the workouts or scouting. The result is Hoffa being drafted and Babcock being blamed for it, he didn't really get a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bramaca View Post
    Personally don't think he is going to get fired, would like it but don't think he will. But to answer your question about why to do it now, it takes time to hire a gm and for him to get things going. If you wait until after the season to replace him you are going to have a situation where a gm is coming into the draft and free agency without any prep time at all, basically setting him up for early failure. The Raps did this when they hired Babcock, he didn't get hired until a week before the draft and then Mcloskey was left in charge of the draft because Babcock hadn't been there for any of the workouts or scouting. The result is Hoffa being drafted and Babcock being blamed for it, he didn't really get a chance.
    We don't have any draft picks to work with. The earliest thing the GM can do is to make trades, and it's not like there's a time restraint for him to make a trade as opposed to scouting and drafting someone.

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    Its funny because regardless of what some may think hes going to be the gm here at least for a few more years. He came in 2006, raptors win division title that year (06-07), coach of the year, and he was executive of the year, make the playoffs. They again made it again 07-08... he has accomplished much for this franchise then any gm we have ever had..so fire him why not...its not his fault these guys play defense and move the ball when they want to. Again still Washington 17 assist vs tor 13 ... tonight Indy 20 to our 11... that rudy gay 'star' image gettin to his head...oh yah dont forget to factor andreas horrible help d that leads to a whole break down...his shooting slump I still believe will phase out but that isnt helping the 3 game losing streak

    Yes we havent made the post season since but look at our roster throughout the years...to BC credit we seen Jermaine Oneal in a Raps jersey, Shawn Marion, Turk, and now Gay...coming into a situation where bosh was automatically coined the franchise when vince left, bc flow3d with it tried to build around Bosh but it failrd...fact is progress is being made and things are sti bright in raptor land
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    Quote Originally Posted by selassi3 View Post
    Its funny because regardless of what some may think hes going to be the gm here at least for a few more years. He came in 2006, raptors win division title that year (06-07), coach of the year, and he was executive of the year, make the playoffs. They again made it again 07-08... he has accomplished much for this franchise then any gm we have ever had..so fire him why not...its not his fault these guys play defense and move the ball when they want to.

    to BC credit we seen Jermaine Oneal in a Raps jersey, Shawn Marion, Turk, and now Gay...
    1st off whether you liked him or not Glen Grunwald was the most successful GM the Raps ever had, the records speak for themselves.

    And its 100% his responsibility how the players perform on the court, he literally has selected every player on this roster himself with Jose Calderon being the last player he inherited and he picked the coach. The buck has to stop with BC.

    And how is it a credit that he made moves for Jermaine O'Neal (which was a failure in every sense of the word), Shawn Marion (who he only traded for to clean up his Jermaine O'Neal mess), and Hedo Turkoglu (see Jermaine O'neal).

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