Off-Season

[bryan71023]

Now I'm already thinking about next season and trying to see how we can improve our team. What do you guys think of trading Gerald Wallace and Reggie Evans to Indiana for Danny Granger? Granger will be an expiring contract next season so we can try him out and see how he goes if not we can go a different direction plus we wouldn't have to worry about Wallace 3 years left forking him over $30 million. Nothing against Wallace good player but he's getting older and his contract doesn't help this team out of getting good free agents next season. Also I thought of a three team trade where the next could get Paul Millsap as Utah would sign and trade him to us and we can trade Humphries to the Cavaliers and they can send Varejo to Utah just a thought. Now before the criticism remember it is just a thought.

G: Williams/Watson/Taylor
G: Johnson/Brooks/Bogans
F: Granger/1st Round Pick/Toko
F: Millsap/Free Agent/Teletovic
C: Lopez/Blatche/Free Agent

[NJ#1FAN]

Now I'm already thinking about next season and trying to see how we can improve our team. What do you guys think of trading Gerald Wallace and Reggie Evans to Indiana for Danny Granger? Granger will be an expiring contract next season so we can try him out and see how he goes if not we can go a different direction plus we wouldn't have to worry about Wallace 3 years left forking him over $30 million. Nothing against Wallace good player but he's getting older and his contract doesn't help this team out of getting good free agents next season. Also I thought of a three team trade where the next could get Paul Millsap as Utah would sign and trade him to us and we can trade Humphries to the Cavaliers and they can send Varejo to Utah just a thought. Now before the criticism remember it is just a thought.

G: Williams/Watson/Taylor
G: Johnson/Brooks/Bogans
F: Granger/1st Round Pick/Toko
F: Millsap/Free Agent/Teletovic
C: Lopez/Blatche/Free Agent

1. For the same reasons bolded above, why would Indiana want Wallace?
2. The new CBS prohibits teams more than $4MIL over the luxury tax threshold from receiving players in a sign-and-trade deal. The Nets are about $13MIL over the threshold.
3. Utah has a logjam of bigs (Jefferson, Milsap, Kanter, Favors, etc.). Why would Utah trade a younger, durable, talented big for an older, big coming off season-ending surgery & a blood clot in his lung?

[csherm32]

Yea I think you're dreaming a bit with those trades. It makes zero sense for the Pacers to trade a younger, better all-around play in Granger for Wallace, a player who despite playing harder than anyone in the NBA, can't do anything offensively. I also think we would have to give more than just Hump to Cleveland for them to give up Varejo. Varejo was probably making the all-star game before getting injured.

[Rique]

no one would want wallace man. Reggie Evans should not start id rather hump at pf

[Rndy]

A lot of those deals you proposed aren't very realistic teams aren't going to give you good players for crap. A deal I'd be interested in though is Hump for Boozer Nets get one of the best P&R duos in Deron and Boozer he instantly makes you guys a much better rebounding team he's had 20 trb% seasons in the past. The Bulls get a guy who will make a nice role player until his contract comes up so Kevin Love can play with his great friend D Rose.

[Rique]

Deron and JJ not playing well together is a problem right now. Notice they both play way better when the other misses a game. Its not only because of chemistty with each other. Its because both players are too laid back and arent winners. I dont know what this team is going to do in the off season, but with Deron I dont think we'll ever go anywhere his turnovers are too much. Good teams feast on turnovers and he gives the ball away too much vs good teams

[Rndy]

I don't know if it's fair to say Deron isn't a winner he hasn't won in the playoffs but those Utah team won a ton of games. Derons biggest problem is his attitude. One of the greatest coachs of all time quit after a game because of Deron. They need to get him the right weapons for his play. Just because you bring in a lot of players making a ton of money doesn't mean their a fit for Deron. They need a legit pick and roll PF and a guy who can do the dirty work because Lopez can't. Randolph and Boozer are the two players that come to mind.

Nets just don't have the players or the cap space to get Randolph but Boozer can be had and I think it's a good fit for BKN. Bulls desperatly want to get rid of Boozer because Gibson needs to start playing more. And in 2-3 years Bulls are going to make a run at Kevin Love. Humps expiring contract would be a good start.

[bryan71023]

1. For the same reasons bolded above, why would Indiana want Wallace?
2. The new CBS prohibits teams more than $4MIL over the luxury tax threshold from receiving players in a sign-and-trade deal. The Nets are about $13MIL over the threshold.
3. Utah has a logjam of bigs (Jefferson, Milsap, Kanter, Favors, etc.). Why would Utah trade a younger, durable, talented big for an older, big coming off season-ending surgery & a blood clot in his lung?

You're right why would Pacers or Utah do these trades? I see Indiana a better team without Granger, they really don't need him since now Paul George is the leader of that team now. The Pacers' payroll is no where near as high as the Nets which will give them the option to take on Wallace's contract. This is a defensive team and that is exactly what Wallace and Evans will bring into Indiana.

As for Utah scenario, Paul Millsap would like to go to an elite team and contend for a Championship and I'm sure Utah understands that. Al Jefferson maybe on his way out and I highly doubt Utah's front management are going to put all their trust with Favors and Kanter. The reason why I thought of Cleveland sending Varejo and gaining Humphries is because he's an exipring contract next year and they need to save up eary dollar bill to get ready to sign Irving to that huge contract he deserves.

[bryan71023]

Yea I think you're dreaming a bit with those trades. It makes zero sense for the Pacers to trade a younger, better all-around play in Granger for Wallace, a player who despite playing harder than anyone in the NBA, can't do anything offensively. I also think we would have to give more than just Hump to Cleveland for them to give up Varejo. Varejo was probably making the all-star game before getting injured.

I think you got Granger miss up with George. Wallace is just a year older than Granger. Granger was out for the whole season he just recently got back from Injury. Indiana is the second best team in the East and they did all of that without Granger. As or Varejo, yes he was putting up All-Star numbers before his injury but Varejo is an injury prone player. If they have the chance to take on Humphries' expiring contract I'm sure Cleveland will take it. I don't see these trades crazy as everyone else does but it's just an idea that's all.

[bryan71023]

no one would want wallace man. Reggie Evans should not start id rather hump at pf

I can't stand Reggie Evans I don't care if he averages 20 rebounds a game he is useless when it comes to offense he's not a asset to this team he's a cancer in my opinion I would take Humphries over Evans anytime of the week.

[csherm32]

I think you got Granger miss up with George. Wallace is just a year older than Granger. Granger was out for the whole season he just recently got back from Injury. Indiana is the second best team in the East and they did all of that without Granger. As or Varejo, yes he was putting up All-Star numbers before his injury but Varejo is an injury prone player. If they have the chance to take on Humphries' expiring contract I'm sure Cleveland will take it. I don't see these trades crazy as everyone else does but it's just an idea that's all.

No I was talking about Granger. I didn't realize Granger was only a year younger than Wallace. However he appears to still have a lot of years left in him whereas Wallace has already lost a step. I think when Granger finally comes back healthy he will help the Pacers have an even better shot in the East. Right now in their careers, Granger is definitely more valuable than Wallace, despite the injury issues.