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  1. #1
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    Tank watch (and playoff watch?) 2013

    This is the place for discussing games that don't involve the Sixers but do affect our standings for the playoffs and the lottery. Last year this would've been the usual seeding and tie-breaker watch thread, but I'm guessing there's more interest in lottery position, so we're doing both.

    Playoff-Watch

    Here are the conference standings:
    ESPN

    And here are the playoff tiebreaker rules:
    Wikipedia

    Currently, the Sixers' tiebreaker standings are:
    Lose to the Bucks (trail season series 0-3)
    Leading Boston (lead season series 2-1 with a home game to play)
    Beat Toronto (won season series 3-1
    Tie Detroit (season series tied 1-1 with a road game to play)



    Tank-Watch

    Here are the whole-league standings:
    ESPN

    Here are the lottery odds for each position:
    Wikipedia - I'll add this as a picture when I get to my own computer

    Note that the lottery doesn't have regular tie-breaker procedures like the playoffs. Tied teams share the lottery combinations equally between them, with a coin-flip to determine which team gets any extra combinations (if they don't divide evenly) and which team goes ahead if neither moves up in the lottery.



    Both-Watch

    Here's Hollinger's playoff and lottery odds and projections:
    ESPN

    And here are Arturo Galleti's most recent projections, which are (probably) better and definitely more informative:
    Wages of Wins (I'll update this link when he updates the rankings).




    Cool. Everyone have fun and remember different people are rooting for different things than you, and that's their right, so respect it and be cool about it. I'll update this OP whenever things change.

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    Great OT win for the Suns in San Antonio tonight, to put them 4 games back of us.
    This just a night after Sacto's heartbreaker in 2OT in Miami, which they followed up with a huge win in Orlando (who we can't catch) tonight.
    It's tough to see us dropping the 4 games to meet the Phoenix/Sacto/NOH trio, but it's possible - especially if those two keep playing like this.

    A bunch of other relevant games too (DET beat WAS, CLE beat TOR, OKC beat NOH), but nothing like those two.

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    Tank watch haha. Love it.

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    Yess. Huge win for the Suns tonight! Haha

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    the suns' black throwbacks are seriously great.

  6. #6
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    love the tank watch...

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    Tank it Baby!!! However, it is really worth tanking it for a weak 2013 NBA Draft? Sure it is! Jrue Holiday needs a backcourt mate such as Ben McLemore from Kansas. We'll see more of him @ March Madness, but the Ray Allen comparisons have got convinced that the Sixers will have to lose 90% of their remaining games, in order to obtain such a talent. More ping-pong balls, PLEASE?!!!!

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    The year to tank is next year this is a weak draft class. Next year's draft class is star studded some hyping it up as the best since 03 (Wiggins, Parker, Julius Randle). Whoever has the top 2 picks in that draft are going to get ballers.

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    ^I agree. We should just ride out the contracts of Spence, etc.., and hopefully end up with a shot at Wiggins or Parker. While a decent pick in this year's draft might help, there really aren't any game-changing explosive talents out there.

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    were not gonna be bad enough to get the #1 pick this or next year. your talking about players you havent even seen play a college game yet
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    If we continue they way we are going...we will be right in the mix and stand a chance to get the #1 pick this year....unlikely but still possible...this is not the nfl where the team who finishes with the worst record is guaranteed the #1 pick.....we have a 7 game losing streak going....and looking at the warriors tonight its highly probable to turn into 8......trust me this team is playing with a broken spirit and lots of frustration....i see many more losses in our future...this season
    Big ups to Phins1983 for the Sig!!!


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    ^^ that would be ideal...

    whod u take number 1? mclemore or shabazz?

    neither is a franchise player, but theres all-star potential there just the same... nice building blocks for sure....

    turn thad and turner and some cap room into some extra picks/players down the line and we could be in a nice building spot.


    gotta pay the troll toll

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    my take:

    def take mclemore... if we get into the top 3 then id be worried... dont like zellers lack of blocked shots or rebounding at the college level.... i wonder if u could trade down for shabazz or noel? noel is a big risk...

    if we get a 2 or 3... may make sense to trade the pick... for something along the lines of brad beal?

    looks like shabazz could fall to 6... if we could land him or noel at the 8th pick or so, that would be ideal.


    gotta pay the troll toll

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    I like the kid from Indiana more than Mclemore (thats just me)...I would trade the pick with another team in the top 10 for a young proven talent and also their pick....in other words I would use the pick to build depth...the "experts" are claiming its a weak draft...but there will be a few suprises in this draft......thats how i feel at this present time.
    Big ups to Phins1983 for the Sig!!!


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    TANK Watch

    Tank you very much for today's schedule that impacts our draft status

    GS @ Philly
    Tor @ Milw
    Min @ Port

    3 road wins helps the chances at more little white balls with "PHI" on them....

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