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    If LeBron breaks Jordan's per record..

    Would you recognize it as being legitimately broken? The no touch rules now give fast perimeter players much more of an advantage than Jordan had in his era. I personally wouldn't unless it was blown away because I'm certain Jordan would have abused a no touch league.

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    Of course I would observe it as accurate.

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    So what you mean to say is that even if Lebron does break the PER record, hes PER record could not still beat Jordan's even though he does in fact beat it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjoke View Post
    So what you mean to say is that even if Lebron does break the PER record, hes PER record could not still beat Jordan's even though he does in fact beat it

    Due to the rule change that clearly makes it easier, yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Due to the rule change that clearly makes it easier, yes.
    Defenses are better now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Due to the rule change that clearly makes it easier, yes.
    then Wilt was the greatest rebounder ever, despite Rodman's rebound rate being stronger. You are measured across the line, not just by some definition an individual makes. Advanced stats make it easier to level the playing field as far as pace and rule changes. Have you accounted for defenses being better now?

    Does anyone actually think LeBron wouldnt have been just fine back then, and played with the same results? He is a tank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post
    Defenses are better now.

    League offense is down, I don't see evidence that's due to improved defense.

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    the hand check rule was gone while mj was still playing, not to mention there are much better athletes in this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    League offense is down, I don't see evidence that's due to improved defense.
    you just answered your own question on why offenses are down dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bucketss View Post
    the hand check rule was gone while mj was still playing, not to mention there are much better athletes in this era.
    LeBron in this era easily has as much of an advantage as Jordan had in his era athletically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    you just answered your own question on why offenses are down dude.
    Far less big man play accounting for less high percentage shots? Many more 3s being fired up ill-advised. Could very well be the problem. Like I said, I see no evidence defense is better.

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    It seems like as great as Lebron is playing now, some people just go above and beyond to not enjoy it and just look for ways to discredit him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Far less big man play accounting for less high percentage shots? Many more 3s being fired up ill-advised. Could very well be the problem. Like I said, I see no evidence defense is better.
    That's because you aren't watching the games. They are more complex now than ever. Everyone knows what every one and what they should do to counter it.

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    You literally started this thread to downplay lebron.

    How much better does he really have to play for people to shut up.

    Damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOb0 View Post
    Far less big man play accounting for less high percentage shots? Many more 3s being fired up ill-advised. Could very well be the problem. Like I said, I see no evidence defense is better.
    The defenses are far more complex nowadays. If you are attempting to discredit LeBron's numbers because of his era, we can play that game with every player in history.

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