Why does EVERY mock draft have our team picking a defensive player in the first round

[NYC]

Honestly, this is getting really irritating. Did this team learn their lesson last year?

They went with Wilkerson and Coples the past two years, searching for a pass rusher and now every mock draft has us going for another pass rusher.

What is this, try to draft a pass rusher every year and then keep going until you hit a home run?

Wilkerson ended up being a solid run stopper and guy to clog up the hole. Coples caught on at the end and probably can see 10 sacks next year.

Our offense completely sucked and the Jets shouldn't even be looking at defense AT ALL in the first round.

Rex Ryan never learns, his act is getting tired. This isn't a defensive league anymore, defense doesn't win championships. It's not the NBA. Offense wins titles. Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones, some great offensive guys.

[bronxbomba26]

Because there is no top 10 draft pick offensive talent (outside of the linemen however it seems like you're talking skill players). Don't tell me Geno Smith, the amount of over-hype that guy is getting is absurd.

[King P]

First off all, there's really no offensive value in the 1st. 2nd, balance wins championships, not offense.

And lastly, I hate when people keep saying that we have been ignoring the offense. No we haven't

The problem with the offense is that the talent evaluators (ie Tanny) did such a horrible job picking offensive talent.

All but one pick in the 2009 and 2010 drafts was dedicated to the offense. Look at what it generated. Sanchez, Greene, Slauson, Ducasse, McKnight, Conner.

Granted, we had very few picks in those two years, but the point remains that out of those two years, those picks look horrendous now. If in 5 years, our best drafted offensive players are a somewhat promising slot receiver (Kerley) and an inconsistent TE looking for a big contract (Keller), you deserve to be fired.

We never ignored the offense, we just built it via sheer incompetence.

[bklynny67]

Trade back a few spots, get an extra pick later, and take Cordarrelle Patterson or Keenan Allen and I'll be happy.

Even someone like Eddie Lacy would be nice if we move to the end of the first.

But I agree. We need offense. I wish we could get Patterson or Allen, along with Lacy, but we'll probably take two straight defensive players just to piss me off.

[CAVEMAN5]

what is irritating is when you don't follow college football and have no idea where the best prospects are. add in the fact we don't have a starting olb on either side (maybe 1 if you count mcyntire) then you have a draft pick. you sir are an idiot and I usually don't comment on such idiotic threads, but I just had to cuz of your ignorance to the sport.

[Sandman]

Honestly, this is getting really irritating. Did this team learn their lesson last year?

?? Coples was a good pick.

They went with Wilkerson and Coples the past two years, searching for a pass rusher and now every mock draft has us going for another pass rusher.

What is this, try to draft a pass rusher every year and then keep going until you hit a home run?

Wilkerson ended up being a solid run stopper and guy to clog up the hole. Coples caught on at the end and probably can see 10 sacks next year.

Our offense completely sucked and the Jets shouldn't even be looking at defense AT ALL in the first round.

They drafted d-lineman why is it shocking they need linebackers too?

Rex Ryan never learns, his act is getting tired. This isn't a defensive league anymore, defense doesn't win championships. It's not the NBA. Offense wins titles. Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones, some great offensive guys.

Scoring more points than the other team wins titles. There are a lot of different ways to do it. Reaching for talent because of need isn't usually one of them.

[John X Doe]

Well, for one, they all copy each other. And none of these guys know anything. There I gave you two reasons.

[John X Doe]

Honestly, this is getting really irritating. Did this team learn their lesson last year?

They went with Wilkerson and Coples the past two years, searching for a pass rusher and now every mock draft has us going for another pass rusher.

What is this, try to draft a pass rusher every year and then keep going until you hit a home run?

Wilkerson ended up being a solid run stopper and guy to clog up the hole. Coples caught on at the end and probably can see 10 sacks next year.

Our offense completely sucked and the Jets shouldn't even be looking at defense AT ALL in the first round.

Rex Ryan never learns, his act is getting tired. This isn't a defensive league anymore, defense doesn't win championships. It's not the NBA. Offense wins titles. Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones, some great offensive guys.

After all that smoke you aren't going to offer your opinion on your offensive selection? Weak.

BTW, we have a draft thread.

[MrX27]

Honestly, this is getting really irritating. Did this team learn their lesson last year?

They went with Wilkerson and Coples the past two years, searching for a pass rusher and now every mock draft has us going for another pass rusher.

What is this, try to draft a pass rusher every year and then keep going until you hit a home run?

Wilkerson ended up being a solid run stopper and guy to clog up the hole. Coples caught on at the end and probably can see 10 sacks next year.

Our offense completely sucked and the Jets shouldn't even be looking at defense AT ALL in the first round.

Rex Ryan never learns, his act is getting tired. This isn't a defensive league anymore, defense doesn't win championships. It's not the NBA. Offense wins titles. Dion Jordan, Jarvis Jones, some great offensive guys.

First of all the Jets have a HUGE need at OLB, because if I asked you right this moment to name the starters, you couldn't.

Wilkerson is a DL player, Coples is a DL player, the one thing the Jets have lacked since John Abraham left is a quality passrushing OLB.

Yes the Jets offense sucked, and QB is a huge reason, but outside of Geno Smith (who is very doubtful to be on the board at #9) there is no other QB worth taking that high.

Plus, the Jets will probably go offense on 5 out of the remaining 6 picks, so it's not like the Jets won't address offense, its just that the best value for the Jets is on the defensive side of the ball at that pick.

You say defense doesn't win, but yet both Baltimore and the 49ers have a pair of perennial top defenses in the league.

[scopepts]

we have the #9 pick and no offensive player is worth that pick........ dont be sill, I understand we need offense but it wont be in the first round..... Chill out

[NYC]

we have the #9 pick and no offensive player is worth that pick........ dont be sill, I understand we need offense but it wont be in the first round..... Chill out

Cordarrelle Patterson isn't worth the pick? You're kidding.. That position is about the Jets most desperate need, Holmes, Hill and Kerley didn't cut it last year this guy is 6'3.

[scopepts]

Cordarrelle Patterson isn't worth the pick? You're kidding.. That position is about the Jets most desperate need, Holmes, Hill and Kerley didn't cut it last year this guy is 6'3.

No he's really not, maybe a 15-20 pick. This is probably the worst year to have a top ten pick. And another thing u need to realize is WR's don't translate to the NFL rite away. Hill will be fine, don't judge so soon. And a healthy Holmes coming back we will be ok.

Another thing I want to add, it doesn't matter if we have Jerry rice in his prime out there, we need a consistent QB.

[$GangGr33n$]

Holmes is the no.1 whether we like it or not, Kerley is very good in the slot and we picked a WR last year in the 2nd so picking another one in the 1st essentially would mean we're giving up on Stephen Hill, and guard isnt a big enough need for us to take Warmack or Cooper at 9. Our tackles are fine, no TE should be a top 20 pick, no RB is a 1st rounder, and aside from Geno no QB should be in the 1st this year IMO though of course there will likely be 3+ just because of the position. So what offensive position would you like to address exactly at 9? We NEED to finally get our dominant pass-rusher this year. Coples and Wilkerson get good pass-rush as 3-4 DE but thats not the kind of pass-rush we can rely on. Defense is the way to go again this year at least in the 1st

[onlythisfar41]

Clearly you have no working knowledge of college football and specifically this years draft class in regard to our draft position. There is absolutely NO offensive player worth taking with the 9th selection. All the QB's are 2nd round prospects and anyone taken before is a reach. You mentioned Patterson at our spot, wrong. He is a good player but we would be wasting our pick to draft a guy 10 spots earlier than he should go, and for what? So you can feel good about drafting an offensive guy, thats stupid.

Yes we all know we need offensive playmakers, unfortunately this isnt the year where youre going to find them at the top of the draft. However what there is available is a litany of defensive talents, namely pass rushers, at the top and it just so happens we desperately need one. Why on earth would we overdraft a WR or QB when we can fill a position of need with a player that is leaps and bounds more talented.

Dont complain about things when you dont know what youre talking about. If you want to come in here and give all the reasons why you feel we should trade down and obtain an offensive skill position, fine. However dont spout ******** about grabbing someone like Patterson at our current position because it makes it abundantly clear you have no idea what youre talking about.

[Realistik84]

First of all the Jets have a HUGE need at OLB, because if I asked you right this moment to name the starters, you couldn't.

Wilkerson is a DL player, Coples is a DL player, the one thing the Jets have lacked since John Abraham left is a quality passrushing OLB.

Yes the Jets offense sucked, and QB is a huge reason, but outside of Geno Smith (who is very doubtful to be on the board at #9) there is no other QB worth taking that high.

Plus, the Jets will probably go offense on 5 out of the remaining 6 picks, so it's not like the Jets won't address offense, its just that the best value for the Jets is on the defensive side of the ball at that pick.

You say defense doesn't win, but yet both Baltimore and the 49ers have a pair of perennial top defenses in the league.

I'd rather go OLB in 1st...OL 2nd...And EJ Manuel in 3rd....feel like he would be a good fit he for Morningwoods offense.