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    According to Knicksnow.com, this is our best lineup....

    The folks at knicksnow.com provided an analysis of the top 5 first-half of season lineups and has listed the following as the best lineup: Prigioni-Smith-Novak-Anthony-Chandler.
    Have at it.

    http://knicksnow.com/posts/2707/Firs...6#.UShONUJZWfQ
    http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=58606&dateline=136919  1770

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    In the first half of the season, JR was shooting better than Novak.
    If those two guys are knocking down shots and Melo is drawing all the attention, prigs the willing passer and chandler rolling and rolling.. I could see that.

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    According to 82 games it's either Kidd-Smith-Anthony-Stoudemire-Chandler or Felton-Kidd-Smith-Anthony-Chandler. The latter has a bigger sample size


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    I hate Novak.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post
    It's at the point where Celtics can only give up around .25-.5 points per possession for the rest of the game while scoring about 1.5 points per possession for the rest of the game.

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    I'm not a fan of any lineup that has JR Smith in it. All the JR comments are "if you control his shots and he makes good decisions". Except he never does. We need size - these lineups with Melo at the 4 kill us.

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    Anybody think the Melo at the 4 thing is a gimmick, that works for a while, then runs its course? Maybe we need more traditional lineups, with Melo at the 4 only to exploit certain mismatches.

    Chandler
    Wallace/KT
    Melo
    Shump
    Felton

    Camby
    Amare
    Novak
    JR
    Kidd

    Just a thought


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    The team has way too many one way players, for things to work, and on top of that they are old. The Knicks are being exposed badly right now.

    For one, the Knicks should cut Sheed or Kurt Thomas and bring up Sims from the D league. Then I would go with the best players at each position and play a tight 9 man rotation. Chandler, Amare, Melo, Shumpert, Felton...

    Man that Brewer trade was retarded!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backstabber View Post
    Anybody think the Melo at the 4 thing is a gimmick, that works for a while, then runs its course? Maybe we need more traditional lineups, with Melo at the 4 only to exploit certain mismatches.

    Chandler
    Wallace/KT
    Melo
    Shump
    Felton

    Camby
    Amare
    Novak
    JR
    Kidd

    Just a thought
    You're forgetting Martin. I think it can work offensively, but defensively Melo will often be outsized so it outweighs everything we do offensively. And now we're not even hitting shots so I would go with Amar'e since we have Martin.

    Then again, I think it is just the effort.

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    Or we can start the guy we pay 100 million dollars and has developed a decent post game...just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrDre94 View Post
    You're forgetting Martin. I think it can work offensively, but defensively Melo will often be outsized so it outweighs everything we do offensively. And now we're not even hitting shots so I would go with Amar'e since we have Martin.

    Then again, I think it is just the effort.
    Wouldn't mind at all sliding either Martin or Wallace in the starting line up and playing Melo at the 3. Martin would be a tough pull given he's just got here, but at least he's healthy. Putting Melo back to the 3, shakes things up, and possibly slides Shump back to his natural position at the 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    I hate Novak.
    LMFAO

    hi justinnum1

    Props to KniCks4LiFe

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    Melo at the 3 or 4 is a mismatch and in favor for the Knicks 99% of the time. As good as he is I still feel too much is put on him for the team to win. The rest of the guys need to get involved on the offense. Iso is OK but not as a steady diet. Durant does it in OKC and Kobe in LA but there are other guys on there team that score 15 and 20 points a game. LA loses when Kobe shoots too much and hogs the ball. there are times when he needs to take over. same with Melo and the Knicks. The team plays better D also when other guys are in the flow of the offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Leethal View Post
    I hate Novak.
    Novak needs a point guard who looks for him. Lin did last year. Notice that no one really saw much from Novak until Lin started playing. Yes, JR passed to him occassionally, but Novak really grew with Lin. (Please, I am not saying this to start another Lin debate). But now we are so focused on Melo, the point guards pass to Melo even when Novak is wide open. Frankly, I would rather have a open Novak shoot a three than a contested Melo or JR.

    That being said, I have complained about Novak all season because he has no moves. If he took one step to the side, or a little up and under, he would get a lot more good shots off. In addition, dispite the advanced stats of some posters, I do not see good defense from him.

    So how did such a limited and one-dimensional player have a good season last year? It is because the point guards (particularly Lin) looked for him when he was open. Now, point guards are apparently told that a contested three from Melo or JR is better than an open three from Novak. If you compound that with Novak's inherent lack of creativity, then he is of highly diminished value to this team.

    I guess what I am saying is that I agree with D-Leethal that a one dimensional player like Novak is of limited value. But if we have him, at least maximize that value by giving him the ball when he is open. It goes back to our point guards (and Woodson).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJAF View Post
    Melo at the 3 or 4 is a mismatch and in favor for the Knicks 99% of the time. As good as he is I still feel too much is put on him for the team to win. The rest of the guys need to get involved on the offense. Iso is OK but not as a steady diet. Durant does it in OKC and Kobe in LA but there are other guys on there team that score 15 and 20 points a game. LA loses when Kobe shoots too much and hogs the ball. there are times when he needs to take over. same with Melo and the Knicks. The team plays better D also when other guys are in the flow of the offense.
    Durant has Westbrook, Kevin Martin, and Serge. Kobe has Steve Nash, Dwight, and Metta. Melo has Felton, Kidd, Chandler, and Amare. I think there is a clear comparison to be made about Kobe:Melo; but OKC has much more talented players.

    Part of our problem, is the supporting cast. They aren't the cast from earlier this year. They certainly are not having the impact. Kidd and Novak have lost they're shot. Felton can't defend. Wallace can't get on the court. Shump is certainly not having the impact of an early Brewer, and Amare has only shown flashes.

    We can say the team does better when we get guys like Novak and Kidd the ball in the flow of the offense, but when they get the ball they throw up a brick. We have to admit, that when players are hitting their shots, its easier to get the rest of the guys involved.


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    I love all these STATs that are all season, the problem with that is teams adjust, and I think what have you done for me lately is key, and by that I mean a sample size of 29 games is not small and in that time we are below .500.

    You want to talk lineups lets talk last 29 games, right?

    The FO was blinded by the early success and this team in my opinion right now can not compete for a title, Hope I'm wrong.



    Now I can't fly my airplane

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