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    Powerplay help

    This team is not going anywhere without a powerplay and we haven't had a good one since 94' with leetch and zubov at the point. Every team to win the Stanley Cup always has a good pp.

    Does anyone know if there is any team willing to trade a good defenseman with a hard slapshot WHO HITS THE NET? I would trade hagelin or whatever it takes (lol for the most part just really frustrated)

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    Our PP needs help for sure...but I don't really know that it's the booming shot it's missing. We have nobody in front of the net. Nobody moves on our pp, and while they all stand still they are hoping for a lane to pass to. Our PP has a terrible design and it needs to change, it's always a problem here. We shouldn't have a bad PP, infact we should have the best in the league with two snipers in Nash and Gaborik, and offensive Dman in DelZotto and a good puck moving pivot with a good shot in Richards for the point. Richards has made a living running the PP from the point, I am baffled why he can't do it here. I still think they should use Boyle with those guys in front, he's the perfect net front guy as he's big and has good hands.

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    The B's won the cup 2 years ago with an absolutely atrocious PP.

    -Having said that, I agree that we badly need improvement. There's no excuse to have as bad a PP as we do. Gabby, Nash, Richards, Staal, and whoever else... get it done.

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    If you look at the stats, if you look at the league numbers from last season, they would have a success rate of about 17%. currently, they have a PP working at an 8% clip (3 goals in 35 chances), so having a 17% pp rate would only give us an additional 3 goals (it would actually have to be 17.15% to get the full 3 additional goals). When you apply those goals to the 3 games where we had the most power play chances (5 attempts in 3 different games), the outcome of those games doesn't change, based on numbers.

    Game# Team NYRGoals OppGoals Result PPOpp PPG
    1 BOS 1 3 L 5 0
    3 BOS 4 3 W(OT) 5 0
    9 NJD 1 3 L 5 0

    Like I said, it doesn't change the outcome according to the numbers, how it would have affected the game at the time of the goal, who knows, it certainly couldn't make things worse though. I agree the power play units all stand around and wait for someone to get open, or pass them the puck. When we get it back to the point, we haven't moved the puck fast enough to keep the D from getting in position to block the shot. Everyone knows that all they have to do is pressure the rangers along the wall and they'll give up the puck. We need to move the puck more quickly, start rotating players as the puck moves and get someone other then callahan in front of the net. If he won't be playing for another couple of games, someone needs to step in and take the abuse we've come to expect cally to handle in front of the net. I also believe we need someone to just accept the role of carrying it in and setting it up, enough with this dump and chase nonsense on the power play. We don't have the legs to get to those pucks right now. It's a waste of time.

    I will say though, the power play last night where kreider and JT Miller were out there looked pretty good. Passes skipping to the open guys, a good quality chance by staal that marty just gets lucky on.

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    We had a booming shot a couple of seasons ago but it did not make a big deiffernce. The talent is there. Its not the talent. Its like a couple of seasons ago the Pens went a half a season with a bad PP despite their amazing talent. The problem is it is not just a half a season slump for the Rangers. It is the way the PP is run. Still wish we had Zooks passing and creativity on the PP. Last night Kreider-Miller-Staal had a period of quick passing leading to a nice shot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SLY WILLIAMS View Post
    We had a booming shot a couple of seasons ago but it did not make a big deiffernce. The talent is there. Its not the talent. Its like a couple of seasons ago the Pens went a half a season with a bad PP despite their amazing talent. The problem is it is not just a half a season slump for the Rangers. It is the way the PP is run. Still wish we had Zooks passing and creativity on the PP. Last night Kreider-Miller-Staal had a period of quick passing leading to a nice shot.
    The only guy on either powerplay on this team that goes to the front of the net is Callahan and he's not really a big guy but he gets the odd goal in there, need more people to follow his lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbs View Post
    If you look at the stats, if you look at the league numbers from last season, they would have a success rate of about 17%. currently, they have a PP working at an 8% clip (3 goals in 35 chances), so having a 17% pp rate would only give us an additional 3 goals (it would actually have to be 17.15% to get the full 3 additional goals). When you apply those goals to the 3 games where we had the most power play chances (5 attempts in 3 different games), the outcome of those games doesn't change, based on numbers.

    Game# Team NYRGoals OppGoals Result PPOpp PPG
    1 BOS 1 3 L 5 0
    3 BOS 4 3 W(OT) 5 0
    9 NJD 1 3 L 5 0

    Like I said, it doesn't change the outcome according to the numbers, how it would have affected the game at the time of the goal, who knows, it certainly couldn't make things worse though. I agree the power play units all stand around and wait for someone to get open, or pass them the puck. When we get it back to the point, we haven't moved the puck fast enough to keep the D from getting in position to block the shot. Everyone knows that all they have to do is pressure the rangers along the wall and they'll give up the puck. We need to move the puck more quickly, start rotating players as the puck moves and get someone other then callahan in front of the net. If he won't be playing for another couple of games, someone needs to step in and take the abuse we've come to expect cally to handle in front of the net. I also believe we need someone to just accept the role of carrying it in and setting it up, enough with this dump and chase nonsense on the power play. We don't have the legs to get to those pucks right now. It's a waste of time.

    I will say though, the power play last night where kreider and JT Miller were out there looked pretty good. Passes skipping to the open guys, a good quality chance by staal that marty just gets lucky on.
    I think its more so about the actual threat of a good powerplay than the %'s. If other teams know that you're powerplay is dreadful, they can play tighter defense and not be afraid to take penalties. If they fear your powerplay, than they become tentative on defense which opens the game up a lot more for your offense as a whole.

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    We need a Holmstrom type of player. Put a big body in the net. Its not that our puck movement is atrocious, its that its too easy to see the shot.

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    A guy with an accurate shot from the point would help, like a veteran like Visnovsky, not Del Zotto who shoots high and wide every time.

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    I wouldn't mind a great point shot but I think a guy like Stralman could do a decent job if we actually gained the zone with consistency and had puck movement to open up shooting lanes.

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    I know he's old, I know he's a left-handed shot, but the Rangers should have added D Sheldon Souray. He could have been our 5th or 6th defenseman, but he certainly would have fixed an obvious need, which was a point man on the PP with a power shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmARanger18 View Post
    A guy with an accurate shot from the point would help, like a veteran like Visnovsky, not Del Zotto who shoots high and wide every time.
    There's nothing wrong with Richards or Stralman for a point shot, that's actually been Richards specialty throughout his career. We need a new plan, better puck and player movement with a net presense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdamico View Post
    I know he's old, I know he's a left-handed shot, but the Rangers should have added D Sheldon Souray. He could have been our 5th or 6th defenseman, but he certainly would have fixed an obvious need, which was a point man on the PP with a power shot.
    I'd have been ok with Souray, basically because he's a strong guy on the point, doesn't mess around and can intimidate as well as shoot the puck. It's a gamble though, he could go out with an injury any day. I still think we have guys to run a PP but we do need another d-man for our bottom pair, preferably a strong stay at home D man, kinda like Sauer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdamico View Post
    I know he's old, I know he's a left-handed shot, but the Rangers should have added D Sheldon Souray. He could have been our 5th or 6th defenseman, but he certainly would have fixed an obvious need, which was a point man on the PP with a power shot.
    That is the guy I would really love to have, he has a bomb of a shot, but honestly I think we should try McDonagh more on the PP and let him and Richards run it from the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAmARanger18 View Post
    That is the guy I would really love to have, he has a bomb of a shot, but honestly I think we should try McDonagh more on the PP and let him and Richards run it from the point.
    McDonagh needs the pp off. The dude runs so much ice time he is gonna break down sooner or later as girardi does. Let them take the 2 minutes off and get a few minutes of rest. The problem on the pp is that guys that should be shooting like nash or gabs are always passing up the shot and trying to be to fancy. No body moves around. I would love stralman on the point as I believe he has one of the best shots on D for our team. Plus it seems he is never afraid to shoot. Nash and Gabs are always to the low sides and never in any good shooting postions.

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