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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    Woodson will make it, first ballot or not.

    Saying he was never shutdown is a lie, like Revis, maybe not. But he was very good at how he played. He could cover different types of players, became a better tackler over his career and always could take the ball away.
    It's the hall of fame. Not hall of very good. Woodson never flat out shut down the best WR's in the game. Sanders did. Revis did. That is what 1st ballot hall of fame is.

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    For sure first ballot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    It's the hall of fame. Not hall of very good. Woodson never flat out shut down the best WR's in the game. Sanders did. Revis did. That is what 1st ballot hall of fame is.
    Their shouldnt be a distinction between a first ballot HOFer and a HOFer. Really, you either are a hall of famer or you arent. That said, Woodson deserves it, and his role was different than revis. Revis is a shutdown corner, woodson was a playmaker.
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    Reed, Woodson,Gonzalez,Urlacher, all 1st ballot HOF'S in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    It's the hall of fame. Not hall of very good. Woodson never flat out shut down the best WR's in the game. Sanders did. Revis did. That is what 1st ballot hall of fame is.
    Anyone know the shelf life of crow? Because I'm pretty sure you're going to be eating plenty of it 5 years after Woodson retires. He, too, is a first ballot HOFer. Just wait for it... and bring a tanker truck full of something to wash down all of those magpie feathers that you'll be chomping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rawz View Post
    randy moss? i think he is a safe 1st ballot HOF. Tony gonzaloz is diff. a 1st ballot HOFer. despite his problems in post season. easily 1st ballot, IMO. But certainly tony and randy are to.
    Moss won't make it the first time because the media hates him. Also Sharpe didn't make it the first time either, so if I were to speculate off of that Gonzalez would probably make it in his 2nd year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    Right now there are 3 active players who are locks for 1st ballot. Lewis, Manning, Brady.
    All just your opinion; I have figured it all out, but I would guess there are a lot more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    With Reed winning a super bowl and picking off a ball last night. Is he now the 4th active 1st ballot hall of famer?

    He's a top 3 modern day (1978-pres) DB. Along with Lott and Sanders.
    I say it should have a 1st Ballot Hall Of Famer, if he retired before this past season. The amount of Ints. & already won a S B.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderLakersA's View Post
    Anyone know the shelf life of crow? Because I'm pretty sure you're going to be eating plenty of it 5 years after Woodson retires. He, too, is a first ballot HOFer. Just wait for it... and bring a tanker truck full of something to wash down all of those magpie feathers that you'll be chomping.
    I'm a Packers fan. I've seen Woodson play. And aw hell no. He ain't a first ballot hall of famer. With the amount of times he's been flat out burned. The fact that he can't lockdown the opposing team's #1 WR.

    He's the most overrated defensive player I can remember.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    I'm a Packers fan. I've seen Woodson play. And aw hell no. He ain't a first ballot hall of famer. With the amount of times he's been flat out burned. The fact that he can't lockdown the opposing team's #1 WR.

    He's the most overrated defensive player I can remember.
    He spent the prime of his career in Oakland
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    Hopefully first ballot, but not until after 2 seasons with the Colts, as rumored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtcocaine View Post
    Its more than just three... Namadi A and Tony G just to name a few.....


    Lol at all the people not understanding how hard it is, and what an honor it is, to be first ballot.

    Brady, Manning, Lewis, Reed, Gonzalez.

    Polamalu was good enough, but was probably injured too much and missed too many games to get the 1st ballot nod. Woodson is borderline.

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    Could make a case for themselves eventually.

    Brees is a question mark. He could maybe make a case with a few more amazing seasons and sneak into 1st ballot status.

    To the guy that Nnamdi, no chance in hell. To the guy who said Watt, no way. DL is one of the hardest positions to go 1st ballot. Urlacher is an outside chance, but I think he'll go 2nd ballot. Peppers is in the same boat as Watt.

    Moss and Owens both won't because of their attitudes and off-the-field issues.

    I literally can't think of anyone else worth mentioning who would even begin to have a case.

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    IDK, I always thought Cris Carter was a lock for first ballot. You have no idea how these fools will vote. I think there's no doubt he should be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldStyleCubbies View Post
    Hopefully first ballot, but not until after 2 seasons with the Colts, as rumored.
    i ahve a feeling he'll be a pat
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    Right now IMO with guys who played this past season, 1st ballot HOF are

    QB- Brady, Manning
    RB- None
    WR- Moss
    TE- Gonzalez
    OL- Can't think of any
    DL- Peppers??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    I'm a Packers fan. I've seen Woodson play. And aw hell no. He ain't a first ballot hall of famer. With the amount of times he's been flat out burned. The fact that he can't lockdown the opposing team's #1 WR.

    He's the most overrated defensive player I can remember.
    I, too, have watched Woodson from his days with the Raiders to his time with the Packers. I understand what you're saying in terms of his play strictly as a corner. But the man is a playmaker. Getting into the Hall is about more than just the eyeball test. Those stats that you casually dismiss matter to electors, as does the overall success that a player has enjoyed over his career. I would even go as far as to say that the final analysis is weighted more heavily towards a player's successes. The electors won't remember all of the times that Woodson gambled and missed or outright got burned. They'll remember his overall impact. They'll remember him blowing up plays, disrupting receivers, returning picks for TDs and putting QBs on the ground. They'll remember him maturing as a man and representing himself and his franchise the right way. And lastly, they'll remember that he did it while representing two historically great franchises.

    Woodson gets in on the first ballot. Like I said, just wait for it.

    And while you're waiting, go review the list of all of the guys that got in on the first ballot. Now tell me that you can't spot at least one player that you felt should not have made it in on the first ballot. I know that I can. A few, in fact. The selection committee is anything but objective, and I'm betting that Woodson has the juice to get the nod.
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