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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddler The Gr8 View Post
    nah...

    he gets the guys to play hard and compete but his offensive sets and rotations are baffling
    This.

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    We just need a good offensive assistant coach, thats all. The players love casey, they respect him. I wouldn't mind getting a coach like dantoni for our offense. Hell i wouldnt mind getting triano back either, he's a pretty good offensive coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by dylanreidchiu View Post
    We just need a good offensive assistant coach, thats all. The players love casey, they respect him. I wouldn't mind getting a coach like dantoni for our offense. Hell i wouldnt mind getting triano back either, he's a pretty good offensive coach
    Agree

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenzo400 View Post
    But these same problems existed with the old lineup too. I can count about ten games this year where I "knew" we would lose int he last six minutes despite only being down by 5 points. You need movement at these crucial times. Motion offense is great, but you can't just run that all game. Teams figure you out, and you need to be clever at times. This is why drawing offensive plays during these times is crucial to winning games.
    I'm with Jamiecballer in my general opinion that Casey is doing the primary things I need my coach to be doing at this stage; especially with lots of younger players. But eventually, every team has to figure a way to execute their offense late in games. You are absolutely right that it has been a struggle with this team. My trepidation behind the "new coach movement" has been two-fold:

    a) there is a lot that Casey has done exceptionally well with limited talented and a very young roster. Some of the results have been incredibly admirable.

    b) consistency in approach (especially with a younger team), matters to me in developing the talent we have.

    I'm of the opinion that an offensive assistant coach is the way to go here.

    I was frustrated listening to Casey's press conference this evening, mentioning that he isn't worried about the offense he saw tonight, more the defense and the missed rotations. He really needs to be concerned about both. Both were sub par in the second half tonight. And the defense has a much harder time getting set when long contested two's and turnovers lead to long rebounds a live possession lose balls. The offensive decisions the players were making were deplorable in the second half tonight.

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    leadership is more important in a head coach than anything IMO. finding someone who can connect with the guys and command their respect and coax extra effort out of them is far more difficult than finding someone who can draw up a good play. so we've got the hard part. now it's just a matter of filling out the coaching staff with guys who can fill in the gaps where Casey isn't so strong.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebloemer View Post
    I'm with Jamiecballer in my general opinion that Casey is doing the primary things I need my coach to be doing at this stage; especially with lots of younger players. But eventually, every team has to figure a way to execute their offense late in games. You are absolutely right that it has been a struggle with this team. My trepidation behind the "new coach movement" has been two-fold:

    a) there is a lot that Casey has done exceptionally well with limited talented and a very young roster. Some of the results have been incredibly admirable.

    b) consistency in approach (especially with a younger team), matters to me in developing the talent we have.

    I'm of the opinion that an offensive assistant coach is the way to go here.

    I was frustrated listening to Casey's press conference this evening, mentioning that he isn't worried about the offense he saw tonight, more the defense and the missed rotations. He really needs to be concerned about both. Both were sub par in the second half tonight. And the defense has a much harder time getting set when long contested two's and turnovers lead to long rebounds a live possession lose balls. The offensive decisions the players were making were deplorable in the second half tonight.
    I couldn't have said it better. I just hope BC realizes the importance of getting an offensive specialist coach. While we know generally certain coaches that would help in this department, I imagine there are a whole lot more offensive specialist assistant coaches that would help us tremendously, but they are not known by the general public.

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    Wasn't Casey given a say when he first signed him who he wanted to bring over for the coaching staff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jista View Post
    It's easy to put down the job Colangelo has done, but realisticly what would you have done differently ?
    Of course it is. Every single player on the roster is one who he brought in. Can't blame the former GM.

    And what would I have done differently? Not sign Landry Fields to a ridiculous contract would be a start.


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    He does need an offensive coach. The motion offense he runs lacks motion and the inbounds plays are questionable. Really not a fan of the small ball either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lajoie View Post
    Of course it is. Every single player on the roster is one who he brought in. Can't blame the former GM.

    And what would I have done differently? Not sign Landry Fields to a ridiculous contract would be a start.
    List down all the things you would've done.

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    his rotations do suck but the way he has this team passing the ball and playing hard is priceless to me

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    It's funny how people are saying that we need an offensive coach, when we're 12th in the league in offense and like 20th on defense. Not saying that I don't agree with you guys, it's true that Casey's offense rotations are horrible but it's just strange how the team stats work out. I don't think our defense is that great, I think that needs to get fixed first.

    I think Casey is a good coach, but not a great one. I think we should get Sam Mitchell back
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    Lowry is as good as gone with Mitchell on the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jista View Post
    It's easy to put down the job Colangelo has done, but realisticly what would you have done differently ?
    well one thing i definatly would have done would have been to trade bosh when he had 1 full year left on his contract or at the deadline the year before.we could have easily gotten a good young player and a first for him.instead you keep him for a year to make the first round of the playoffs?kinda like the sundin situation except sundin had a no trade clause so you cant blame management.not to mention you trade bosh and get a first and that would have prett much guarenteed raps a lottery pick at the time.that move alone would of put us quite a bit ahead,from where we were when he left.

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    hes rotations are not that bad, you just need to wake up and look at who we have ! lowrys not meshing with the offense, put in lucas, lucas cant pass, put innnn........??? ... We have issues hes trying to do all he can with what he has. I dont like that he is playing lowry injured but we dont have a choice. We dont have a solid center and thats also hurting us but you gotta put in what you got. Im not sure where fields was maybe he was hurt/sick but hes huge for us defensively, without him ull see pg/sg just cut right thru our D.

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    Bargs is pissing me off if he is staying then he should have been playing today, so he can mesh with guys before the 3 day break, we need every able body we can get.

    Amir looks like hes in pain as the game progresses, not sure if its his ankles or knees. I would rest him and give acy/val more time.

    Demars confidence since Gay got here has increased drastically, maybe thats just me. He looks real good out there.

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