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    Two Year Plan

    Well, since this free agent crop isn't very good I think we need to have a two year plan. I see it as the following:

    This offseason-
    Sign Calderon to the 2 year with an option deal (7.5M seems to be the going rate)
    Extend Monroe
    Keep Charlie V and Stuckey to fill the minimum cap
    Let Maggette, Maxiel, and Bynum walk
    Sign the following on one year contracts:
    Beno Udrih/Jamall Tinsley/AJ Price- Backup PG (whoever will do the 1 year deal)
    Mike Dunleavy/Dorell Wright- Backup SF
    Ronny Turiaf/Branden Wright- Backup PF/C
    Trade down in the draft with Atlanta for picks (16/19) and give up one for the Gordon trade
    Draft- Glenn Robinson III or Sergey Karasev (SF of the future)
    Save as much $$$ as we is allowed by cap rules!!

    Next offseason-
    Let all the 1 year contract guys walk
    Let Charlie V and Stuckey walk
    Close to $40M to spend how we please!!
    Find a taker for Jerebko unless he starts playing better
    Fill in the roster as needed

    Keepers:
    Calderon
    Knight
    Drummond
    Monroe
    English
    Singler
    Kravtsov
    2013 draft pick
    2014 draft pick

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoog View Post
    Well, since this free agent crop isn't very good I think we need to have a two year plan. I see it as the following:

    This offseason-
    Sign Calderon to the 2 year with an option deal (7.5M seems to be the going rate)
    Extend Monroe
    Keep Charlie V and Stuckey to fill the minimum cap
    Let Maggette, Maxiel, and Bynum walk
    Sign the following on one year contracts:
    Beno Udrih/Jamall Tinsley/AJ Price- Backup PG (whoever will do the 1 year deal)
    Mike Dunleavy/Dorell Wright- Backup SF
    Ronny Turiaf/Branden Wright- Backup PF/C
    Trade down in the draft with Atlanta for picks (16/19) and give up one for the Gordon trade
    Draft- Glenn Robinson III or Sergey Karasev (SF of the future)
    Save as much $$$ as we is allowed by cap rules!!

    Next offseason-
    Let all the 1 year contract guys walk
    Let Charlie V and Stuckey walk
    Close to $40M to spend how we please!!
    Find a taker for Jerebko unless he starts playing better
    Fill in the roster as needed

    Keepers:
    Calderon
    Knight
    Drummond
    Monroe
    English
    Singler
    Kravtsov
    2013 draft pick
    2014 draft pick
    I see the plan, but only concern is since we aren't a contender or close, signing guys to one year deals will typically require paying a tad more. If for no other reason, I think most guys would:
    1. Take a 2 year 8M and not a 1 year 5M because of risk of injury. And if not, I know their agent would want the 2 year deal.

    2. Be assured that taking a 1 year they would get significant playing time to be able to negotiate the following summer. Nobody wants to go into the summer UnRFA from riding pine on a losing team (or a team not making the playoffs)

    3. I hate counting on a pick to improve us. We're not good enough to make any splash in the playoffs but not crappy enough to get a decent lottery pick. I've always viewed the draft as icing on the cake, not the batter.

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    One year plan simplified

    Trade stuckey jerebko and a future first to the clippers for Eric Bledsoe.
    Draft Otto Porter and Patric Young

    Who cares about cv


    Calderon/Bledsoe/aj price?
    Singler/knight/English
    Porter/singler/Middleton
    Monroe/maxiell/cv?
    Drummond/young/kravtsov
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoog View Post
    Well, since this free agent crop isn't very good I think we need to have a two year plan. I see it as the following:

    This offseason-
    Sign Calderon to the 2 year with an option deal (7.5M seems to be the going rate)
    Extend Monroe
    Keep Charlie V and Stuckey to fill the minimum cap
    Let Maggette, Maxiel, and Bynum walk
    Sign the following on one year contracts:
    Beno Udrih/Jamall Tinsley/AJ Price- Backup PG (whoever will do the 1 year deal)
    Mike Dunleavy/Dorell Wright- Backup SF
    Ronny Turiaf/Branden Wright- Backup PF/C
    Trade down in the draft with Atlanta for picks (16/19) and give up one for the Gordon trade
    Draft- Glenn Robinson III or Sergey Karasev (SF of the future)
    Save as much $$$ as we is allowed by cap rules!!

    Next offseason-
    Let all the 1 year contract guys walk
    Let Charlie V and Stuckey walk
    Close to $40M to spend how we please!!
    Find a taker for Jerebko unless he starts playing better
    Fill in the roster as needed

    Keepers:
    Calderon
    Knight
    Drummond
    Monroe
    English
    Singler
    Kravtsov
    2013 draft pick
    2014 draft pick

    I see what you are trying to get at, but I don't agree.

    -I don't mind the Calderon signing, but depending on his plans, I don't want to overpay for him(3yrs/MLE, no more).

    - I think Stuckey and C Vill can be decent trade bait, along with Maxiell and Bynum. All could help certain playoff teams, plus 2 are expiring deals.

    - I like the idea of extending Monroe, I just don't know yet what his ceiling is, has he reached it? I would probably still give him 4yrs/45mil$.

    -By signing all those players to fill out the roster, I would be afraid to give to budding youngsters on our team the wrong impression. I think it would be counter productive in a few ways.

    -Realistically the marquee FA's in 2014 won't come here unless we severely overpay. Plus who's to say that by 2014 we won't have a couple of all-stars on our team(Moose,Dre).

    My realistic version of what I would like to see...

    -I think we should trade Stuckey for Wilson Chandler and filler.

    -We trade both our 2nd rd picks to move up a bit in the 2nd rd(maybe throw in Middleton or?).

    -We make the playoffs, then get the "giving up our pick" thing out of the way. We can then be even more flexible with trades in the future.

    -We then draft Patrick Young with our only pick.

    - After July, we let Maxiell, Bynum and Maggette walk.

    -Then try to sign OJ Mayo(4yr/32mil), Earl Clark(3yr/15mil), Darius Morris(2yr/4mil), a total of 15mil spent per. It would probably take more than that though.

    -Monroe gets an extention, around 5yrs/50mil$.
    That would pretty much use up our cap space(unless we amnesty Villenueva).

    - We can then try to move into position to add players next offseason. Through the draft, trades or FA signings. There is this kid Wiggins that I would have to draft in 2014(if he enters), we would have to move into a top three spot in the draft though. We would have the pieces to move up.

    2013/2014 roster:
    Calderon/Knight/Morris
    Mayo/Knight/English
    Chandler/Singler/Jerebko
    Monroe/C VIll/Young/Jerebko
    Drummond/Young/Slava

    Again, this is only a sample of what we could possibly do within real parameters. I would hope for a big star, or hitting it in the draft again, but the odds are against it. This would give us a balanced team that is young and had tasted the playoffs. We gain more size, are quicker, slightly better at shooting, better defense(this includes our young players developing as well).

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