How come Lyon got a contract and those nearly 40 year olds didn't?
Is it because they're real old and therefore much less likely to be productive?
Why should I care if guys get paid? I want to win. Not play nice and have a cost effective payroll.
What is this obsession Mets fans have with not spending money?
Always with the cheaper is better...
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02-03-2013, 08:27 PM #61
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And "ultimately," Alderson said, "we're judged on whether we win or lose."
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There is no obsession with not spending money, most relief pitchers are just not worth giving big contracts to.
Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly
If they want to spend big money on a productive OF, then I
ray: ray: ray: they do.
They are unpredictable for the 100th time i've said it and teams don't like to give up 40 man roster spots to RELIEF PITCHERS IN FREE AGENCY!!
What was ineffective about Atchison and Hawkins last year?
That's right...
Nothing..Last edited by metswon69; 02-03-2013 at 08:41 PM.
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02-03-2013, 08:52 PM #63
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Originally Posted by metswon69
There is no obsession with not spending money, most relief pitchers are just not worth giving big contracts to.
If they want to spend big money on a productive OF, then Iray: ray: ray: they do.
They are unpredictable for the 100th time i've said it and teams don't like to give up 40 man roster spots to RELIEF PITCHERS IN FREE AGENCY!!
What was ineffective about Atchison and Hawkins last year?
That's right...
Nothing..
Then how come Lyon got money isn't he a relief pitcher?
And "ultimately," Alderson said, "we're judged on whether we win or lose."
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02-03-2013, 08:57 PM #64
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Conventional wisdom doesn't change man just because you are angry... Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly
First of all we don't know how much money they are giving Lyon because they haven't signed him yet.
Secondly, i said "most" relievers, Lyon has had a longer track record of being productive but even in 2011 he pitched to an 11 ERA before going down with injury.
It's still a crapshoot.
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Originally Posted by metswon69
But the guys who are nearly 40 didn't get a deal...I wonder why?
And "ultimately," Alderson said, "we're judged on whether we win or lose."
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Because again teams don't give 40 man roster spots to relief pitchers. Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly
There are plenty of relievers still left on the market for that reason..
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Of course they do. Originally Posted by metswon69
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Not this late in the offseason... Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly
They sign them to minor league deals and if they work out in ST, they add them to the roster.
Guys like Chad Gaudin, Kyle McClennan, Jeff Manship, and Chad Qualls are not getting guaranteed major league deals with a 40 man spot.
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I think the Marlins got Valverde so we can close this one now.
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Guess he hasn't signed yet...jose valverde is talking to a few teams, including the #marlins. no deal seems imminent.
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Originally Posted by Harry777
Haha...just kidding Originally Posted by metswon69
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It's not your fault, sometimes these writers report things prematurely.
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