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    Geez, can't we see if Jorge Julio wants to pitch. You mean you don't know who this guy is....c'mon.

    He's the guy that was traded along with John Maine to the Metsies for one Kris Benson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie6986 View Post
    Geez, can't we see if Jorge Julio wants to pitch. You mean you don't know who this guy is....c'mon.

    He's the guy that was traded along with John Maine to the Metsies for one Kris Benson.
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    Dallas Braden and Joey Devine I hope the Mets Look at either or both

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/85...me-free-agents I checked they are both available

    http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/m...her/available/

    Dallas Braden

    Joey Devine

    both excellent closers when healthy

    Maybe the Mets should offer either a contract

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/6387/joey-devine

    http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/_/id/28749/dallas-braden

    both or either could bolster our pen if given a contract and give us the addition we need to contend
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    Have they spent any money yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Have they spent any money yet?
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    I didn't think so, still 'looking at' and 'interested in' - spending and signing? not so much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    I didn't think so, still 'looking at' and 'interested in' - spending and signing? not so much...
    Who exactly could they sign today?
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    The ironic part of their bullpen woes is that over the last five years they gave away or traded for nada guys like Bell, Lindstrom and JSmith....all who would have made their pen stronger. And you still see Wheeler, Dotel, Mota pitching somewhere...all former Met farmhands. If they wanted to build a better bullpen without spending a fortune they coulda signed DOliver and or MGonzalez...two solid lefties I have always liked. They seem to get relievers one year too late when they are on the downside...and cheap. You get what you pay for. The success formula for most solid pens is get a good closer and add in a mix of two proven veterans and a bunch of flamethrowing kids and see who sticks. Add Valverde and we may be there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rdg515 View Post
    The ironic part of their bullpen woes is that over the last five years they gave away or traded for nada guys like Bell, Lindstrom and JSmith....all who would have made their pen stronger. And you still see Wheeler, Dotel, Mota pitching somewhere...all former Met farmhands. If they wanted to build a better bullpen without spending a fortune they coulda signed DOliver and or MGonzalez...two solid lefties I have always liked. They seem to get relievers one year too late when they are on the downside...and cheap. You get what you pay for. The success formula for most solid pens is get a good closer and add in a mix of two proven veterans and a bunch of flamethrowing kids and see who sticks. Add Valverde and we may be there.

    They don't want to pay for talent, that's all there is to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Who exactly could they sign today?
    Sham?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Who exactly could they sign today?
    Brandon Lyon evidently

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    Looks like it's not impossible for the Mets to sign players then....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    They don't want to pay for talent, that's all there is to it.
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    Looks like it's not impossible for the Mets to sign players then....
    Do you think Lyon has talent?
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    I like that Sandy is taking my advice. Smart guy. No need to totally tank a season for the sake of a few measly Coupon dollars. Imprive the team incrementally, get used to winning and get the ship turned round faster. If this team can somehow stay relevant PAST July for once, it gives our young players confidence, and they won't always be pressing because the teams on a another long losing run, they're behind in the game again.

    Improve the BP, give our young starters CONFIDENCE, get them WINS - it's all helpful to producing a winner later.

    There's more to producing a winner than simply assembling dreamy prospects. People forget that. Winning is a habit, so is losing, the Mets need to start cracking .500 once or twice before we start talking winning 95 games.

    The notion that there's no point doing anything unless you're already an 85 win has been exposed as idiotic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    I like that Sandy is taking my advice. Smart guy. No need to totally tank a season for the sake of a few measly Coupon dollars. Imprive the team incrementally, get used to winning and get the ship turned round faster. If this team can somehow stay relevant PAST July for once, it gives our young players confidence, and they won't always be pressing because the teams on a another long losing run, they're behind in the game again.

    Improve the BP, give our young starters CONFIDENCE, get them WINS - it's all helpful to producing a winner later.

    There's more to producing a winner than simply assembling dreamy prospects. People forget that. Winning is a habit, so is losing, the Mets need to start cracking .500 once or twice before we start talking winning 95 games.

    The notion that there's no point doing anything unless you're already an 85 win has been exposed as idiotic.
    But they weren't improving the bullpen with the other acquisitions right?

    Only Lyon because he is going to get a guaranteed deal when there are plenty of relievers that come in minor league deals year after year and are effective.

    The proof is in a player's effectiveness is not just in the money he is paid. There are ton load of major league players that are overpaid and are not effective.

    Scott Atchison, Latroy Hawkins, etc etc are good pickups and they are even better pickups not guaranteeing them 4 million bucks.

    Building a winning team doesn't just comprise of spending money, it's a multitude of things. Having a strong internal foundation to bring up players when other players are ineffective is also important. It's also important to have quality minor league depth so if they need to make trades to fix an area of weakness they can.

    It's not just about carrying 150+ plus million dollar payrolls.
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