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    Celtics stats with and without Rondo

    i know it hes only been out 7 games so far this season but i wanted to see who woul step up in his absence this season and figure id start now.

    jeff green
    total 7 games w/o - 195min 33-70fg 7-16 3pt 35reb 9ast 87pts
    avg 7 games w/o- 27.9min 4.7-10fg 1-2.3 3pt 5reb 1.3ast 12.4pts
    w/o rondo 27.9min 47% fg 44%3pt 5reb 1.3ast 12.4pts
    w/ rondo
    total 38 games w/ rondo- 873min 125-296fg 21-81 3pt 109reb 28ast 347 pts
    avg 38 games w/ rondo-23min 3.3-7.8fg .55-2.13 3pt 2.9reb .74ast 9.13 pts
    w/rondo 23min(+4.9 w/o) 42%fg(+5% w/o) 26%(+18% w/o) 2.9reb(+2.1 w/o) .74ast(+.56 w/o) 9.1pts (+3.3 w/o)

    jason terry
    total 7 games w/0- 224m 31-80fg 10-38 3 pt 19reb 31ast 82pts
    avg 7 games w/o- 32min 4.43-11.43fg 1.43-5.43 3pt 2.7reb 4.4ast 11.7pts
    w/o rondo 32min 39%fg 26%3pt 2.7reb 4.4 ast 11.7pts
    w/ rondo
    total 38 games w/rondo- 1030min 131-298fg 37-110 3pt 67reb 70ast 366pts
    avg 38 games w/ rondo-27m 3.45-7.84fg .97-2.97 3pt 1.8reb 1.8 ast 9.6pts
    w/ rondo 27min(+5 w/o) 44%fg(-5% w/o) 34%3pt(-8% w/o) 1.8reb(+.9 w/o) 1.8ast(+2.6w/o) 9.6pts(+2.1w/o)

    courtney lee
    total 7 games w/o rondo- 222min 26-63fg 6-15 3pt 26reb 16ast 72pts
    avg 7 games w/o rondo- 31.7min 3.7-9fg .86-2.1 3pt 3.7reb 2.3ast 10.3pts
    w/o rondo -31.7min 41%fg 40%3pt 3.7reb 2.3ast 10.3pts
    total 38 games w/rondo- 807 min 104-218fg 22-69 3pt 73reb 48ast 253pts
    avg 38 games w/ rondo- 21min 2.7-5.7fg .58-1.82 3pt 1.9reb 1.3ast 6.7pts
    w/ rondo 21min(+10.7 w/o) 48%(-7% w/0) 32%3(+8%w/o) 1.9reb(+1.8 w/o) 1.3ast(+1 w/o) 6.7pts (+3.6 w/o)

    paul pierce
    total 7 games w/o rondo- 239min 42-98 10-33 50reb 38ast 122pts
    avg 7 games w/o rondo- 34.1min 6-14 1.43-4.71 7.1reb 5.4ast 17.4pts
    w/o rondo- 34.1min 43%fg 30%3pt 7.1reb 5.4ast 17.4 pts
    total 38 games w/ rondo- 1283min 240-572 68-191 219reb 140ast 718pts
    avg 38 games w/ rondo-33.8min 6.32-15fg 1.79-5 3pt 5.8reb 3.7ast 18.9pts
    w/ rondo- 33.8min(+.3 w/o) 42%(+1% w/o) 36%3pt(-6% w/o) 5.8reb(+1.3 w/o) 3.7ast(+1.7 w/o) pts 18.9pts(-1.5 w/o)

    kg
    total 7 games w/o rondo- 218min 42-77 52reb 23ast 103pts
    avg 7 games w/o rondo-31.1 min 6-11fg 7.4reb 3.3ast 14.7pts
    w/o rondo- 31.1min 55%fg 7.4reb 3.3ast 14.7reb
    total 38 games w/ rondo- 1147min 236-475 276reb 77ast 568pts
    avg 38 games w/ rondo- 30.2min 6.21-12.5fg 7.3reb 2ast 15pts
    w/ rondo- 30.2min(+.9 w/o) 50%fg(+5% w/o) 7.3reb(+.1 w/o) 15pts(-.3 w/o)

    bass
    total 7 games w/o rondo 184min 20-47 30reb 52pts
    avg 7 games without rondo 26.3min 2.9-6.7fg 4.3 reb 7.4pts
    w/o rondo 26.3min 43% 4.3reb 7.4pts
    total 38 games w/rondo- 976min 116-259fg 188reb 285pts
    avg 38 games w/rondo-25.7 3-6.8fg 4.9reb 7.5pts
    w/ rondo 25.7min(+.6) 45%(-2% w/o) 4.9reb(-.6 w/o) 7.5pts(-.1 w/o)

    jared sullinger
    Total 7 games w/o rondo 123m 17-29 31reb 40pts
    Avg 7 games w/o rondo- 17.6m 2.4-4.1fg 4.4reb 5.7pts
    w/o rondo- 17.6m 59%fg 4.4reb 5.7pts
    Total 38 games w/ rondo- 770m 94-196fg 233reb 230pts
    Avg 38 games w/ rondo- 20.3m 2.5-5.2fg 6.1reb 6.1pts
    w/o rondo- 20.3min(-2.7w/o) 48%fg(+11%w/o) 6.1reb(-1.7w/o) 6.1pts(-.4w/o)

    looks like green and lee are stepping up when rodo is out. i will keep updating it after each game

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    Both of them will pick up their game with increased minutes, even if Rondo was still here.


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    Gary Dzen‏@GlobeGaryDzen

    On Rajon Rondo's value, Danny Ainge tells WEEI: "He single-handedly carries us every night, and I don't know how people don't see that."


    DAnny knows basketball. Seriously, we are privileged to watch one of the most unique and special players ever to suit up in the NBA. Hope for a full and speedy recovery.
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    Yeah, because a GM isn't going to hype up his own players, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Corey View Post
    Yeah, because a GM isn't going to hype up his own players, right?
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    Rondo is one of the most erratic, flawed, and great players ever. But starting with his triple double percentage vs National TV and local TV, and his various prima donna moves dating back to Freshman year of college makes it clear that depending on Rondo for consistency or leadership will be in vain - has been so far, and he's likely at or beyond the midpoint of his career. He certainly seems to be well past the mid point of his career in terms of defensive effort and results.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Thought I'd post this story that was in the Globe today...

    They moved the ball as if it were on fire. They zipped it around so fast the orange sphere almost left a vapor trail. The Kings couldn’t keep up.



    “That’s the way we need to play,” Paul Pierce said after the Celtics’ 99-81 drubbing of Sacramento at TD Garden. “We’ve been up and down with it all season, but moving forward, this is definitely the way we have to play.”

    Nobody had the ball for more than a couple of seconds, if that. The Celtics zoomed the ball up the court with one long pass on nearly every possession, and in their half-court set, each player whizzed the rock around until they got an an easy, open look.

    The result: The Celtics shot 53 percent (39 of 73) from the floor and 10 players scored, including six in double figures, led by 16 from Pierce.

    This was the Celtics’ first game since learning that Rajon Rondo would be out for the season with a torn ligament in his right knee, and this is apparently the style fans can now expect.

    The Celtics aren’t trying to replace their All-Star point guard with a one-man performance from someone new. Instead, it’s a collective effort, with several players stepping up to fill the hole Rondo’s absence leaves behind.

    “For the majority of the time, we’re going to have to spread it out, do it by committee,” Jason Terry said. “Collectively as a group, that’s how we have to win.”

    The Celtics led by as many as 28 in a contest that never really seemed to be in question after the second quarter, when the Celtics outscored the Kings, 37-14, and hit 14 consecutive shots, putting the game out of reach.

    It was during that stretch that the Celtics really kicked it into another gear.

    “It’s just easier for us if we can get into our stuff quicker,” Doc Rivers said. “We just advanced it at the pass, we got early posts for Kevin [Garnett], had some quick layups, easy baskets, that’s what we have to do.”

    The new up-tempo style was also popular with the players, who not only looked happy during the game but couldn’t stop gabbing about the scheme after it was over.

    Terry, for one, is a big fan of this style.

    “It’s been an adjustment for me, playing in this system,” said the guard, who finished with 12 points on 5-of-7 shooting off the bench, “but I’m getting more and more comfortable and again, with this style that we’re playing now, I think it’s a little more conducive to my game.”

    The most noticeable aspect of the win was how Avery Bradley and Courtney Lee worked in tandem while playing on the perimeter.

    “I thought the pressure that Courtney and Avery put on the guards at the beginning of the game really set the tone,” said Garnett, who finished with 13 points, 9 rebounds, and 5 assists.

    From a defensive standpoint, both Lee and Bradley were pesky toward the Kings’ guards.

    “And when I’m pressuring a guy and I get tired, Courtney can pressure,” said Bradley, who had 11 points. “He complements me a lot. He’s a great player, a great teammate.”

    But when the Celtics went to inbound the ball and begin an offensive possession, Bradley or Lee would go fetch it — and they did so while practically sprinting up the court.

    “That’s one thing that me and Courtney told each other before the game,” Bradley said. “We said, ‘Get it and go.’ That’s what we were doing. We were getting it, passing it up. That’s how we have to play. It’s hard to play a team like that. That’s how Miami plays. A lot of teams play like that. It’s hard to beat a team like that.”

    Lee agreed.

    “With Rondo, he’s capable of getting the ball and breaking any one-man pressure or press,” Lee said. “Without Rondo, we have to do that to beat the pressure: push the ball up the court, throw up ahead, and try to attack early.”

    Bradley likened the scheme to one seen in another sport.

    “I guess you could say, a soccer team,” he explained. “Everybody touches the ball and when everybody touches the ball, they all get a feel — and it’s hard to stop a team when everybody is making shots and everybody has confidence.”

    Overall, Bradley called this win a “blueprint” for how the Celtics have to win from now on. The next test is for them to repeat the result it produced.
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    Avery >

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    Last year, Avery started off the season poorly on the offensive side, but picked it up as the year progressed. I think he needs a few more games to get going offensively, and hopefully he can push it to 15+ points per night.

    During the last 20 games of last season, he had 15 or more points in over half of those games, but earlier in the year, for like the first 46 games, he never hit 15 points. I'm hoping he can return to late season 2012 form.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 69centers View Post
    Last year, Avery started off the season poorly on the offensive side, but picked it up as the year progressed. I think he needs a few more games to get going offensively, and hopefully he can push it to 15+ points per night.

    During the last 20 games of last season, he had 15 or more points in over half of those games, but earlier in the year, for like the first 46 games, he never hit 15 points. I'm hoping he can return to late season 2012 form.
    It's going to be interesting. Bradley benefitted from Rondo's passing as much as anyone - slashing to the basket on breaks and in half court, spot up corner 3's. I posted somewhere on here my belief he can develop into a solid 18 ppg player over the course of the next 2 1/2 seasons because of two main factors - form on his shot and aggressiveness in seeking scoring opportunities.
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