I really am not over-valuing anything. & like Luther King it all starts with a dream initially. You're a particularly savvy poster so you'll catch my drift.You're over-valuing the Canadian consumer sports market, specifically Toronto based teams. Maybe if we had an NFL team you could bank on Canadian viewers throughout the country (which wouldn't matter because the NFL works with a very restrictive, money generating cap system) because it would be the nations only NFL team and Canadians in general (especially out west) are partial to football.
But when it comes to the Leafs and Raps, very few people outside of Toronto could give a flying ****. Not to say that they aren't revenue generating teams, compared to their American counterparts on average they absolutely are, but not enough to condone luxury dollar spending.
You're hoping that the Raps are going to turn into a brand that is parallel to New York or LA on the backs of Rogers and Bell spending boatloads of cash in penalty dollars?
When I look at Canada I see great opportunity for Canadian basketball. The fact that there are not very many basketball fans outside of southern Ontario is amazing. That there is the opportunity for growth. We have a completely unsaturated market for basketball.
Consider the talent level of Canadians now a days. Tristan Thompson, Cory Joseph, Andrew Wiggins, Anthony Bennett, Myck Kabongo etc. We have a bunch of young guys coming up looking to make their mark in the league.
Think of the 2016 olympic basketball team. Canada will probably be able to field a full NBA roster by that point that has a serious chance at medalling. That right there will help generate exposure Canada wide for the sport of basketball. what about 2020 maybe we can challenge for Gold with a bunch of our young guys in their prime.
If you look at the growth that this country has gone through in the last decade how can you say that we won't be a huge brand in a decade from now. Canada went from Nash and Todd MacCulloch to what now seems like two handfuls of talented basketball players and the next Lebron in Wiggins coming down the pipeline. Basketball in Canada is on the upswing.
Rogers/Bell aren't thinking of this year or next year. They are thinking of the next 20-30 years. Basketball will eventually be recognized as the other TRUE Canadian sport invented by a CANADIAN. They just haven't woken up to it yet.
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As for BC, can't speak on his behalf. Would like this direction though
Lowry + Gay - 26
Ross + Val - 5ys rookie scale
Trade out Bargnani & DeRozan for picks even if it meant taking back equally bad/worse contracts. (Previously mentioned Cats trade for Detroit pick)
^ Imagine with Davis gone, Thomas coming back with a pick could make sense??...
we can have this debate between rudy gay and bosh but ill just go ahead and say that id prefer my best player to be a wing player then a pf. its much harder to attain a good wing player then it is a pf. pf's are a dime a dozen in this leaugue.
Here's a thought. Ray Allen, the Sonics star player, is going into the last year of his current deal and has also said he wouldn't mind being moved. In fact, Allen has called Toronto a desirable city to play in.
man if we can trade derozan and bargs for al jeff & tinsley ... this team could be legit!!!!
3-4th seed ?
BC said on fan590 that he really likes DD/Gay for their love of Toronto
"You are not acting like the person Mr. Rogers knew you could be."
Also, at the time of this comment the Raps were in the middle of their 3rd straight losing season so it had nothing to do with a winning franchise.
Demar's not going anywhere soon dood's
You seem to think that the strength of the Toronto Raptors brand and Canada's appetite for NBA basketball in general is inistricably linked to "more Canadians playing the game" when we've already had great Canadian players in the NBA with little to no increase in coverage.
The fact is that Canadians on average just don't relate to basketball growing up and so they don't watch it over the NHL during primetime viewing periods. Even if Wiggins is the next Lebron, assuming that happens he'll likely be drafted to Seattle or some other abscure American market and although people will notice it won't be profound enough to sell the advertising over Hockey.
Going back to the Raptors, if they were to get Wiggins or a Vince Carter - esque showtime player who is primed for greatness, then perhaps you can validate the luxury spending. Ironically, I'm pretty certain we just ****ed ourselves out of Wiggins and any other quality player for that matter in 2014 so it really doesn't matter now.
Luxury tax is toxic. It was designed by cheapskate owners in the league to repel the big market teams from even thinking about it. Not that I give a **** about the solvency of Bell or Rogers, they're the decrepid poster child of Canadian socialist tendancies that protect Canadian companies by letting them **** Canadian consumers in the ***. They're money hungry, monstrous monopolies that have had the game fixed for them and they're not about to hand the NBA free cash. No way in hell.
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he would need to continue to work on his range and passing some more. if dero can average about 12-14 ppg 4rgp and 4apg this can work well for us.
he already averages 4 rebounds and 2.2 apg.. he would just have to shoot a bit less and look for for his team mates some more.
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