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  1. #31
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    I'll take Bulter over Oladipo at SG. But I got him after Jeff Withey(if the bulls failed to get this guy).

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    Olidapo has a huge weakness in terms of offensive efficiency when he's not at the rim. In college, he can get there effortlessly - that all changes in the NBA.

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    Rudy Gay can really get his own shot. I'm taking him over Deng at the right price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedrix View Post
    Rudy Gay can really get his own shot. I'm taking him over Deng at the right price.
    Kewl, let's ignore the defensive side of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedrix View Post
    Rudy Gay can really get his own shot. I'm taking him over Deng at the right price.
    How many of those "getting own shots" go in though? Maybe 30%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shammyguy3 View Post
    How many of those "getting own shots" go in though? Maybe 30%?
    11 out of 23. Nearly 48%

    Though the defense in first half wasn't there.

    He was 50% in threes and FG agianst Clips. Though it was a globetrotters kind of game.

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    And yet he's shooting a whomping 44.1efg% on the year.

    Rudy Gay, Tyreke Evans, Michael Beasley, Brandon Jennings are all guys that can "get their own shots." That doesn't make them good offensive players though.

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    50% in Toronto and 41% on the year.

    But Memphis/Toronto wasn't in the level of the Bulls in terms of ball movement. So most of his shot opportunities is being initiated by him.

    He also attracts the defense whenever he gets in the paint(either by drive or post-up). Something the Bulls has been missing without D.Rose.

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    So 50% in one game with Toronto matters?
    And one of the biggest reasons why Memphis was below average in ball movement was because of Rudy Gay.
    Rudy Gay doesn't really drive the ball into the lane, that's been one of the biggest knocks on him in his career and why he's so vastly inefficient and one of the worst volume shooters around.

    And his %ast clips have never hovered around the 43% for his career. So it's not like he's in the low 30s or high 20s for being assisted on his made field goal attempts.

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    Exactly.

    If you take Hoopdata with players playing at least 30 games and playing at least 20 mpg. You'll see Rudy Gay is second behind LBJ in %ast in SF position. His one of the non PG in the top 30 list of %ast.

    Non PG %ast leaders

    Harden 29.6 - 25.9 ppg
    J.R. Smith 33.2 - 16.7 ppg
    J.Crawford 33.9 - 15.0 ppg
    Kobe 39.0 - 29.2 ppg
    LBJ 39.0 - 26.3 ppg
    D.Waiters 39.0 - 14.6 ppg
    Rudy Gay 40.8 - 17.5 ppg

    He creates almost 60% of his shot and manage to put up 17.5 ppg.

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    I'm really really excited to see Jimmy Buckets play with Derrick Rose. I can see him thrive in transition with Derrick because he's so athletic. He will also give the other teams a mismatch if they put their SG or SF guard Rose (PG guarding Rose in the 2011 Playoffs). This is assuming Rose/Butler/Deng are on the floor together. I really think that Jimmy will produce more. I just can't wait for him to develop a 3 point range.

    I am thrilled for Jimmy Buckets that he's having this much success. He works hard and is all about the team. Couldn't be happier for a really good human being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zedrix View Post
    Exactly.

    If you take Hoopdata with players playing at least 30 games and playing at least 20 mpg. You'll see Rudy Gay is second behind LBJ in %ast in SF position. His one of the non PG in the top 30 list of %ast.

    Non PG %ast leaders

    Harden 29.6 - 25.9 ppg
    J.R. Smith 33.2 - 16.7 ppg
    J.Crawford 33.9 - 15.0 ppg
    Kobe 39.0 - 29.2 ppg
    LBJ 39.0 - 26.3 ppg
    D.Waiters 39.0 - 14.6 ppg
    Rudy Gay 40.8 - 17.5 ppg

    He creates almost 60% of his shot and manage to put up 17.5 ppg.
    The problem with your analysis there is nobody cares if you can put up 17.5ppg unless you can do so efficiently. Which Rudy Gay does not.
    According to hoopdata.com (last updated on the 22nd of January):
    Harden has a 58.2ts%
    Bryant has a 57.2ts%
    Lebron has a 61.9ts%
    Rudy Gay has a 48.0ts%

    Jordan Crawford, JR Smith, and Dion Waiters (along with Rudy Gay) are perfect examples of how ISO basketball is the least efficient style of play in the league. And when you can't shoot well beyond the arc, don't draw fouls by driving to the basket, and don't make enough free throws... well, you suck then. Plain and simple.

    For the record:
    Rudy Gay scores 17.5ppg on the season while taking 16.5fga
    James Harden scores 25.8ppg on the season while taking 17.4fga

    So, James harden takes less than 1.0fga more a game than Gay yet he scores over 8 more points. LOL at Rudy Gay. Awful trade for Toronto.

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