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    Deron Williams is much lower. His jumper has been putrid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Going off this season + what I expect going forward this year?

    1: Paul
    2: Parker (20/8/3 with Highest PER/WS/TS% of anyone not named Cp3. Smart as hell to boot).
    3: Curry
    4: Westbrook (Comparable impact overall to Steph right now due to such poor finishing, the tie going to Curry for me so far this season for embarrassing him heads up)
    5: Irving
    6: Conley
    7: Holiday
    8: D. Williams
    9: Jennigns
    10: Lillard
    This looks like a solid list going off this year. Curry/WB can probably be switched depending on who you talk to, but with very similar stats, it's tough to choose either way. Head 2 head match-ups are a good tie breaker

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaDubs View Post
    Conley is not the best overall point guard... He's a mediocre scorer, okay passer, terrible rebounder, and average defender.
    Very wrong. He is solid overall and a good defender
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    Very wrong. He is solid overall and a good defender
    Averages 5.8 assists, 2.5 boards and 13 points on meh efficiency. I do think that overall he's a very solid PG and a good defender, but he leaves a lot to be desired when compared to the best of the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tredigs View Post
    Averages 5.8 assists, 2.5 boards and 13 points on meh efficiency. I do think that overall he's a very solid PG and a good defender, but he leaves a lot to be desired when compared to the best of the best.
    While I believe his assists should be wayyyyyy better but also looking at basic stats doesn't tell the whole story and having gay and zbo who are guys that need the ball in there hands hurts him. He is better then his stats show
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    While I believe his assists should be wayyyyyy better but also looking at basic stats doesn't tell the whole story and having gay and zbo who are guys that need the ball in there hands hurts him. He is better then his stats show
    It's not as if most of his advanced stats have him better than the elite either. Again, he's good, and yeah I'd agree better than some of those stats show given his defense (solid, not elite), but he's not a top 3 point or anything.

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    Rondo is an assist beast and he is ranked ninth !? odd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    Very wrong. He is solid overall and a good defender
    He averages 2.3 steals from his great anticipation of passing lanes, not his perimeter D.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaDubs View Post
    He averages 2.3 steals from his great anticipation of passing lanes, not his perimeter D.
    Can you prove that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaDubs View Post
    He averages 2.3 steals from his great anticipation of passing lanes, not his perimeter D.
    You do know that him playing the passing lanes is part of his perimeter D right? Maybe not his man D but its still his way of defending the perimeter against passing.

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    No Greivis Vasquez?? :O :O i would definitely put in top 7
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    If you actually read the article its says conley is one of the best one on one Defensers in the NBA it even shows you stats.

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    rondo at 9?....are you kidding me?...ahead of conley?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swashcuff View Post
    Are you really a fan of Ty? I seriously question that because for the first 30+ games of this season especially within the first 25 or so he's been nothing but underwhelming in a season that was supposed to be his breakout year. He has 18 and 8 with solid efficiency potential and hasn't gotten anywhere near that while being extremely inconsistent. Honestly Ty really hasn't made any strides this season to be considered top 10 especially when you consider the improvements so many of those around him have. As a true Lawson fan you'd admit to this and hope that he gets back on the track that he was projected to be on at the end of last season.
    I'm DN fan,not "one-player-fan",and this will be his breakout year,he just had bad 2 months(with 23 games away) and even then he played better than most PG's(14ppg,7apg,3rpg,1.5spg),but if you look at last 10 games his numbers are 18ppg,7apg,3rpg,1.5spg on 50% 3pt shooting,so he is getting better every game,and on a team with 6-7 10+ppg players its really hard to breakout,and he is also playing only 33-34mpg...
    Here are some "Per 48" stats for some PGs mentioned:
    Ty Lawson 21ppg,10apg,4rpg,2spg
    Mike Conley 19ppg,8apg,3.5rpg,3.3spg
    Jeff Teague 20ppg,10apg,3.5rpg,2spg
    George Hill 20ppg,7apg,6rpg,1spg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye15 View Post
    I honestly think Rondo is the most overrated player in the NBA over the past couple of years.
    really why? he leads the league in tripple doubles by a huge margain and leads the league in assist this yr. we are talking overall point guards not just scoring point guards.

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