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    Aaron Rodgers is amazing he is the best QB in an era that is all about the QB, As it is way to early to say he is the best all time (which he will be one day! ) Ive never seen a QB do so much for his team while putting up the numbers Aaron has, our 2011 season says allot of that we had the worst D in the league no running game and yet still finished 15-1. this season the Offensive line played horrible Aaron was the most sacked QB in the league, O-line gave up 2nd most sacks(Injuries hurt) There was no Running game what so ever (Injuries hurt) GB's WR core barely played together all season, Jennings was out most the year, Nelson and Cobb were hurt on and off.
    Aaron Rodgers is amazing and allot of you guys either are haters or idiots.
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    We talk about stuff like this in the GB forum all the time.

    A comparison of Aaron Rodgers, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger and Terry Bradshaw after a similar number of starts in their careers:
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    Through 84 starts Aaron Rodgers has more TD's, more Yards, less INT's by under 18.
    Tom Brady and Big ben have more victories, Arodg and Bradshaw are tied with 56

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    Here's Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino's numbers through 86 starts:

    RODGERS-------MARINO
    Starts - 86 ------------86
    Record - 57 - 29--------56 - 30
    Yards - 23,644---------23,871
    TD's - 188 ------------194
    INT's - 50------------106
    playoff games - 8-----------6
    Playoff wins - 5-----------3

    Rodgers stats in Bold Marino not in bold
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/119635674.html
    Last edited by XJW18; 01-29-2013 at 10:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJW18 View Post
    Here's Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino's numbers through 86 starts:

    RODGERS-------MARINO
    Starts - 86 ------------86
    Record - 57 - 29--------56 - 30
    Yards - 23,644---------23,871
    TD's - 188 ------------94
    INT's - 50------------106
    playoff games - 8-----------6
    Playoff wins - 5-----------3

    Rodgers stats in Bold Marino not in bold
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/119635674.html
    Comparing from then to now is straight foolish.

    If anything compare where they ranked each year in major statistics.

    It's just not the same game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homestarunner93 View Post
    As far as Rodgers goes, eh, if you're going to compare him to Manning and Brady over a long period of time in that way, he needs a few more seasons and playoff appearances under his belt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhillySportFan View Post
    I am pretty open about my dislike for Aaron Rodgers and it's because I think he is simply a better version of Tony Romo. I think he's a choker when it comes down to it, yes he has a chip and I give him credit but I just don't think he's a winner. I guess similar to Peyton Manning, great regular season QB, playoff time not so much. The difference between the two is that Peyton is way more likeable that Aaron.
    Too bad Rodgers already won a superbowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    Comparing from then to now is straight foolish.

    If anything compare where they ranked each year in major statistics.

    It's just not the same game.
    Using PFR's Adjusted Net Yards/Attempt, and comparing to league-average production over each period in question....

    Total Adjusted Net Yards Above Average:

    Dan Marino (84-88): 6,638
    Aaron Rodgers (08-12): 4,957

    If you used Dan Marino's rookie year instead of 1988, he comes in at 4,925.... and he only played 9 games that year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJW18 View Post
    Here's Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino's numbers through 86 starts:

    RODGERS-------MARINO
    Starts - 86 ------------86
    Record - 57 - 29--------56 - 30
    Yards - 23,644---------23,871
    TD's - 188 ------------94
    INT's - 50------------106
    playoff games - 8-----------6
    Playoff wins - 5-----------3

    Rodgers stats in Bold Marino not in bold
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/119635674.html
    There is a typo on his TDs. He threw 194 not 94. Really the only thing Rodgers is far superior to Marino in is his lower INTs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XJW18 View Post
    Here's Aaron Rodgers and Dan Marino's numbers through 86 starts:

    RODGERS-------MARINO
    Starts - 86 ------------86
    Record - 57 - 29--------56 - 30
    Yards - 23,644---------23,871
    TD's - 188 ------------94
    INT's - 50------------106
    playoff games - 8-----------6
    Playoff wins - 5-----------3

    Rodgers stats in Bold Marino not in bold
    http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/119635674.html
    You forgot the 1 in Marino's TD count. It's 194, not 94. Teeny little detail there.

    Anywhoo, Rodgers can't be the best since he only has one championship and it wasn't against the Patriots. It was a 300 yard, 3 TD game against the best defense in the league from that year, but it wasn't against Tom Brady sooo Rodgers isn't the best.

    In all seriousness though, he's the best QB playing right now, was the best and most efficient QB each of the past two individual seasons and should be second in MVP voting behind Adrian Peterson even though they'll both probably lose to Peyton because...Peyton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McFlurry View Post
    He looked average in several games this year, including he Giants game where he played terrible. He tends to hold onto the ball to long waiting for a reciever to get open or that big play and that contributes to a lot of his sacks. He is one of the smartest QB's to play though IMO, turns the ball over very little also which goes back to his fantastic desicion making and he is the best QB in the league right now. GOAT though, thats a stretch but very possible if he keeps up playing the way he has been, Just needs to stay heathly.
    his stats last season have hurt him this year, it's like ppl expect him to have the same numbers and when they're not he's had a down year.

    Fact: Aaron Rodgers is the first QB since 1973 to lead the league in passer efficiency without a 500 yard rusher or 1,000 yard receiver.

    Rodgers should be league MVP but he won't.


    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    He looked average in several games? Are QBs suppose to be great every game of their career? He also was going up against some of the top defenses in the NFL while playing in the toughest division and with almost all of his weapons out and No run game.

    As for him holding on to the ball to long that is just flat out correct. His line is not very good but he held on to the ball much much longer this year than any year I have ever seen. It became very annoying but it has been the one down side of him throughout his career.

    Another note unlike Brady and Mannings coaches Mccarthy shuts the team down as soon as they get a lead instead of stepping on teams throats.
    2 seasons ago he didn't even play in a game, McCarthy does shut things down, compare that with the Saints up by 21 in the 4th Qtr. and they'll still be chucking it downfield just to get Breese his numbers. The Packers simply don't do this. Breese is the real paper tiger of the group, and his efficiency goes down on grass as well.

    how come nobody brings up the division that Manning plays in versus the NFC North?

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    Also, using Rate+ and TD%+ to adjust their number relative to the average of the league at the time they were playing, here is the average of each through their first 5 seasons:

    Rate+:
    Marino: 124.4
    Rodgers: 126.8

    TD%+:
    Marino: 127.6
    Rodgers: 127.0

    If Rodgers is playing better statistically than Marino thus far, it is only by the slightest of margins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    There is a typo on his TDs. He threw 194 not 94. Really the only thing Rodgers is far superior to Marino in is his lower INTs.
    And even that needs to be put into perspective.

    Dan Marino threw INTs on 3.2% of his passes when everyone was throwing INTs on 4.14% of their passes.
    Rodgers is throwing INTs on 1.7% of his passes when everyone is throwing INTs on 2.87% of passes.

    Marino might have been throwing more INTs, but adjusted for the era he was doing pretty damn good. Rodgers is still superior here, but nowhere near as superior as it might appear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Talk View Post
    his stats last season have hurt him this year, it's like ppl expect him to have the same numbers and when they're not he's had a down year.

    Fact: Aaron Rodgers is the first QB since 1973 to lead the league in passer efficiency without a 500 yard rusher or 1,000 yard receiver.

    Rodgers should be league MVP but he won't.




    2 seasons ago he didn't even play in a game, McCarthy does shut things down, compare that with the Saints up by 21 in the 4th Qtr. and they'll still be chucking it downfield just to get Breese his numbers. The Packers simply don't do this. Breese is the real paper tiger of the group, and his efficiency goes down on grass as well.

    how come nobody brings up the division that Manning plays in versus the NFC North?
    Wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WadeKobe View Post
    And even that needs to be put into perspective.

    Dan Marino threw INTs on 3.2% of his passes when everyone was throwing INTs on 4.14% of their passes.
    Rodgers is throwing INTs on 1.7% of his passes when everyone is throwing INTs on 2.87% of passes.

    Marino might have been throwing more INTs, but adjusted for the era he was doing pretty damn good. Rodgers is still superior here, but nowhere near as superior as it might appear.
    Yup this is why its hard to Judge QBs before the passing rules and now.

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    Plus Marino smoked fat blunts before every game so he didn't feel the pass rush. Cheater.

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