I can't see Russell being effective for the Jets. Rex Ryan seems like he lets his players get away with not producing on the field?
If I was Russell, I would be looking for a coaching staff and a team who won't let me get away with anything. No more being late, no breaking any kind of diet or training plans, and no more issues outside of football. And if he slipped up, the team should cut him. That's the environment I think Russell needs because from his stint with the Raiders, it looked like he left mainly because of motivation issues.
The draft is the ultimate line in the sand. Once crossed a player has to prove he belongs regardless of what some GM, head coach says or the past would indicate.
No, you're wrong. You're just flat out wrong. Russell HAD the physical talent. He didn't have the mental wherewithal nor the motivation to be a pro QB.
That's stating the actual facts. You're living in a fallacy where every single one with the physical talent makes it in the NFL. That's just foolish man.
I guess if you truly believe it wasn't the mental side, the sizzurp, the lack of motivation, inability to keep his weight down......etc. Which is what I believe, then I guess I could see your point. But you would be in a VERY small minority to believe that. A minority that 90%+++ of football watching fans would disagree with. I hardly call that facts or truths.
Why has Danny Woodhead parlayed an UDFA signing into a 4 year career? Because he can play at an NFL level.
Why has Wes Welker parlayed an UDFA signing into a 9 year career? Because he can play at an NFL level.
Why did Jamarcus Russell get cut after 3 years? Because, for whatever reason, he is incapable of playing at the NFL level.
I'll never know if Russell had the physical talent with 100% exact scientific certainty but based on what EXPERTS said, my eyes, what almost everyone in the world say, he did.
No anecdotes about UDFAs prove that Russell didn't have physical talent. Physical talent is generally pretty ****ing evident. In fact your point hurts your argument. Welker and Woodhead were tiny little white guys. Maybe not super big or super fast. They weren't drafted because........drum roll.......THEY DIDN'T HAVE GREAT PHYSICAL TALENT. Russell went #1 overall! Did you actually think Welker and Woodhead are great physical talents? No. They know how to play football and have just enough talent. Russell had the talent but lacked the rest of it.
Not to mention 99% of the time highly drafted QBs don't fail because of lack of physical talent. That's almost never the issue.
We'll just never agree on this subroc.
Last edited by Norm; 01-30-2013 at 02:47 PM.
GMs, executives, and scouts had Russell incredibly highly rated pre-draft even though he didn't possess the physical talent to play in the NFL? You're wrong, subroc. Absolutely, 100% wrong.
"Well, he hasn't punched me in the face yet so I'm not sure you can prove I can get a black eye, I think that's a truth that I cannot get black eyes."
Had to razz you a bit.
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The Jets are a joke.
Cubs and Bears
All they are is a huge media circus
Cubs and Bears
it makes sense, the jets are like the raiders of the east.
"If I had to pick a center [for an all-time best team], I would take Olajuwon. That leaves out Shaq, Patrick Ewing. It leaves out Wilt Chamberlain. It leaves out a lot of people. And the reason I would take Olajuwon is very simple: he is so versatile. It's not just his scoring, not just his rebounding or not just his blocked shots. He was in the top seven in steals. He always made great decisions on the court. For all facets of the game, I have to give it to him." -Michael Jordan
Too bad Physical Talent really isn't that important at the QB position.
Decision making, accuracy, leadership, work-ethic, ability to study film, read defenses, look off receivers, run play action effectively ect. ect. ect. are all more important.
Last edited by Patriot Pride; 01-30-2013 at 10:05 PM.