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  1. #16
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    Why did Lewis pay the families of the victims? Kinda strange for an innocent man to pay the families an "undisclosed amount"

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrism516 View Post
    Why did Lewis pay the families of the victims? Kinda strange for an innocent man to pay the families an "undisclosed amount"
    Good point, an innocent party doesn't usually do that.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NYNJ30 View Post
    It's not as simple as that. You have no way whatsoever (unless you were there...) of knowing if he is a murderer. Being acquitted does not mean he is not a murderer. It means that there was insufficient evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he is a murderer.

    When the allegedly bloody suit that he was wearing that night is mysteriously missing, it helps with the "insufficient evidence" part.
    I'd like to know how blood on a suit would somehow prove that the two men weren't killed in self defense...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    I'd like to know how blood on a suit would somehow prove that the two men weren't killed in self defense...
    Why would Ray Lewis trash and get rid of the suit if your theory were correct?

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    Guy is 100% a cold-blooded killer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FalconsNation02 View Post
    Why would Ray Lewis trash and get rid of the suit if your theory were correct?
    Fear of being wrongfully convicted... A bloody suit isn't going to do anything to overturn the verdict.
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    Thug, POS ... alleged murderer, a real role model...be proud
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    who's verdict was also innocent...........
    No one is ever given an "innocent" verdict, it's always "not guilty", which isn't the same thing.

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    So let's summarize PSD's case against Ray. He's a murderer because:

    1. An alleged bloody suit was never obtained.
    2. His two "accomplices" were only found "not guilty" rather than "innocent"

    Some potent ****, guys.
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    I wasn't making an argument either way, just clearing up a common misconception.

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    Some people will believe anything just because they want to. Others look for evidence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leandres_sf View Post
    Good point, an innocent party doesn't usually do that.
    Well, the other side to that coin is that most families of murder victims would not accept a pay-off of any kind in lieu of seeing the men responsible locked behind bars or prepped for a sitdown in Old Sparky. That doesn't square with most people's sense of justice. The fact that a family could so quickly accept a pay-off speaks volumes. I'm sure for most of us here, if someone were to take an innocent loved one from your life, them showing up at your door with a check book wouldn't cut it. Not by a longshot.

    As far as Ray's perspective, that's easy. The families of the deceased would have filed a civil suit, where the burden of proof is much lower. Innocent or not, the prudent business decision is to settle it out of court. This isn't about whether Ray murdered anyone, but rather, could you convince a jury that he had a hand in their demise. As evinced by some of the comments here, that wouldn't be too difficult to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fingerbang View Post
    So let's summarize PSD's case against Ray. He's a murderer because:

    1. An alleged bloody suit was never obtained.
    2. His two "accomplices" were only found "not guilty" rather than "innocent"

    Some potent ****, guys.
    Personally, I'm not saying he's guilty...I'm saying just because the court says your not guilty doesn't mean your 100% clean and innocent

    If he was so sure he wasn't involved or it was self-defense why did he change his story? Why did he testify against his friends and take a lesser charge?

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    Quote Originally Posted by otatop View Post
    No one is ever given an "innocent" verdict, it's always "not guilty", which isn't the same thing.
    Is there any other standard by which to declare innocence? Look, the court makes use of any number of terms to intimate either a judge's or a jury's rendering. Not Guilty is not one of those terms that you need not mince. It reads "innocent" of the charge. Period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrism516 View Post
    Why did Lewis pay the families of the victims? Kinda strange for an innocent man to pay the families an "undisclosed amount"
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