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    5 Common Misconceptions About Ray Lewis’ Murder Trial

    His trial was thirteen years ago, so memories faded. When facts fall out of the mouths of commentators, there is a fast and loose quality to them. I have read articles recently shaded to indicate Lewis’ implication in the murder and some that are flat out false.

    There is prejudice here. It is undeniable that many associate Lewis’ case with the Simpson case. They fill in the parts they don’t know with details from OJ’s eventual acquittal.
    Here are five common misconceptions about the murder case involving Ray Lewis:

    1. Ray Lewis was involved in a murder – Ray Lewis was an eventual witness in a murder case. He was charged with the murder of Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar along with his two companions Reginald Oakley and Joseph Sweeting. The murder charges stemmed from a vicious fight in Atlanta streets following a Super Bowl Party in 2000. Eventually, the case ended with the defendants acquitted for reasons of self defense. In the eyes of the court, no murder took place.

    2. Ray Lewis’ friends went to jail to protect him – This is in a lot of blogs and opinion pieces. It’s just not true. No one in this case went to jail.

    3. Ray Lewis refused to testify against his friends in the murder trial – It’s the opposite. Ray Lewis started the trial at the table with Oakley and Sweeting. He flipped, pleading down to an obstruction of justice charge in exchange for testimony. Lewis was the state’s star witness. Some sources say the three men were no longer friends because of the alleged betrayal. Ironically, the only person to serve any sentence in this case at all was Lewis. Had he not flipped, he likely would have walked away with the same acquittal as the other defendants.

    4. The murders were never solved – This is written a lot, along with something to the effect that no other suspects were ever arrested. It doesn’t seem to be in dispute that Oakley and Sweeting killed Baker and Lollar. The jury found that it was self defense after only a few hours of deliberation.

    5. Ray Lewis is a murderer – Ray wasn’t involved in the fight that killed the two men. His companions were. Lewis wanted no part of the fight, but not for some moral or noble reason. He wanted to avoid the conflict because he was concerned it might hurt his NFL career. Throughout the process, Lewis seemed consumed with protecting his then burgeoning NFL superstar status. He made them promise silence in the limo afterward and lied to police the morning after. He flipped on his buddies to avoid scrutiny.
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    lewis is not a murder, simple as that
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    The justice system failed here.

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    yeah, ray lewis is a saint

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCkid12 View Post
    yeah, ray lewis is a saint
    theres a huge difference between saint and murder, and thats where ray falls in the middle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    theres a huge difference between saint and murder, and thats where ray falls in the middle
    Agreed, except just because he wasn't the one who actually murdered doesn't make him innocent...actually according to the law he would have been charged with murder had he not decided to testify against his friends who actually committed the act

    The fact is that someone was killed and he was involved in it, tried to cover it up, and didn't do anything to try to stop it

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCkid12 View Post
    Agreed, except just because he wasn't the one who actually murdered doesn't make him innocent...actually according to the law he would have been charged with murder had he not decided to testify against his friends who actually committed the act

    The fact is that someone was killed and he was involved in it, tried to cover it up, and didn't do anything to try to stop it
    of murder it does. im not saying hes the greatest human being in the world, im simply saying he's not a murder. neither are the other two, as it was ruled self defense
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    You can dance around the details all you want. A man was killed, he was there, he lied to police, and still got away with it. He's just as likely to be the murderer and the other two suspects. It's got nothing to do with OJ Simpson. Oj's was beyond the shadow of a doubt. One might believe Lewis if they give him the benefit of the doubt... I don't know him so why would I or anybody else? Looks fishy, where there's smoke there's fire.

    I'd compare it more like Barry Bonds and steroids. He did it, but got his buddy (Anderson) to take the fall for a price. Just because he got off or was not charged doesn't mean he's innocent.

    The point is... he either killed a man or his buddies did and he's guilty by association. They can't prove it, because he's rich with good lawyers. Ryan Braun got off on a technicality too. The law and judicial system is little reflection of guilt or innocence. Watch the movie "Law Abiding Citizen".

    None of my friends get caught up in vicious fights leading to people being shot and killed. If he was so conscious about his NFL rep, he wouldn't have been out with loose-cannon friends at God knows what hour. Why didn't we hear Montana or Rice getting busted? Because they knew better. These guys get pumped up on steroids and think they are above the law (which they arguably are).

    He's either guilty or dumb and naive. I'm gonna go with Murderer, because his "inspirational/heart-felt/passionate" motivational speeches and rhetoric is way over the top and seems psychotic. He probably thought he was doing "God's work" when he capped that guy.

    No sympathy for psychos.
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    Good thread. Most people just parrot the same bs about the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfattahian View Post
    You can dance around the details all you want. A man was killed, he was there, he lied to police, and still got away with it. He's just as likely to be the murderer and the other two suspects. It's got nothing to do with OJ Simpson. Oj's was beyond the shadow of a doubt. One might believe Lewis if they give him the benefit of the doubt... I don't know him so why would I or anybody else? Looks fishy, where there's smoke there's fire.

    I'd compare it more like Barry Bonds and steroids. He did it, but got his buddy (Anderson) to take the fall for a price. Just because he got off or was not charged doesn't mean he's innocent.

    The point is... he either killed a man or his buddies did and he's guilty by association. They can't prove it, because he's rich with good lawyers. Ryan Braun got off on a technicality too. The law and judicial system is little reflection of guilt or innocence. Watch the movie "Law Abiding Citizen".

    None of my friends get caught up in vicious fights leading to people being shot and killed. If he was so conscious about his NFL rep, he wouldn't have been out with loose-cannon friends at God knows what hour. Why didn't we hear Montana or Rice getting busted? Because they knew better. These guys get pumped up on steroids and think they are above the law (which they arguably are).

    He's either guilty or dumb and naive. I'm gonna go with Murderer, because his "inspirational/heart-felt/passionate" motivational speeches and rhetoric is way over the top and seems psychotic. He probably thought he was doing "God's work" when he capped that guy.

    No sympathy for psychos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    who's verdict was also innocent...........
    So was Casey Anthony and O.J. Simpson.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCkid12 View Post
    So was Casey Anthony and O.J. Simpson.....
    Exceptions, not the rule...

    Where's your evidence against Ray? There is none, it's just a bunch of hearsay.

    There's actually some compelling evidence out there that says OJ's son was actually the killer and it makes a lot more sense than what is generally assumed.
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    fail. MURDERER. Yea, his bloody suit just mysteriously vanished.

    Can't believe the NFL glorifies this POS while Tony Gonzalez's career is swept under the rug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    lewis is not a murder, simple as that
    It's not as simple as that. You have no way whatsoever (unless you were there...) of knowing if he is a murderer. Being acquitted does not mean he is not a murderer. It means that there was insufficient evidence to prove without a reasonable doubt that he is a murderer.

    When the allegedly bloody suit that he was wearing that night is mysteriously missing, it helps with the "insufficient evidence" part.

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    Regardless, I love Ray the football player.

    I can't stand Ray the person/character.
    To some, he was just a boy. A boy who played football, a football player that grew to be a man. A man that took over a city, a city that he made his own, a city that stands behind him in hopes of becoming one of that cities all-time greats. To some, 2013 was a fluke. To some, he can't do it again. To some, he got lucky.

    To us though, to the Philly faithful, that QB is Nick Foles. To us, that's our QB.

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