The only reason Amar'e shouldn't start is if Woody really won't play him more than 30 minutes ever again - which seems crazy. Amar'e has been great so far and I actually think him and Melo work well together. Amar'e can good timing on cuts to the basket when Melo is iso on the wing and there should be more and more layups and dunks to be had given the attention that Melo gets. With Felton back I would expect Amar'e to get even better on O and I think he is really committed to getting better on D and giving some effort on the boards and even boxing out.
I also think that the big Chandler and Amar'e issue has not been as bad so far this year. In this offense there is plenty of opportunity for both to run p&r, which is different than what D'Antoni asked Amar'e to do which was play a perimeter game.
Either way I'm for Amar'e back starting - but I would still have him be the first out of the game and bring him back when Melo goes out (essentially the same rotation with the 2nd unit but you start the game with him. With the awful starts to games we have I can't say that this team doesn't need a change because it seems like we start ever game in a hole.
Spero and Clyde said it a ton of times down the stretch and noted how much the floor opened up once Novak came in for the last possession or 2, and ATL could no longer double. Result? Melo drove on Novaks side for a and-1 to seal the deal.
What happened when Melo was getting doubled with STAT in the game? He was forcing passes to STAT with no space or angle and turned it over twice in crucial moments (both not STATs fault, but it was a result of lack of spacing - Melo shouldn't have passed it either time).
Put it this way, with STAT in the game instead of Novak, your distance to help is cut in half. 3 key guys and their defenders are all parked around the key/elbow/low block.
Not saying STAT is worse for this team than Novak, needs less minutes than Novak etc...But the spacing with those 3 is still a real issue.
What do you think?.. I think that give Melo the space to create.. And it allows Amar'e to be the primary pick and roll go on O.. One bad thing is.. You will miss Tysons offensive rebound/tip outs.. Amare has been hitting the offensive glass pretty well as of late.. But I dunno.. Thoughts?.
^ I still think NOvak's presence on the court is a bit overstated because of his lack of adjustment offensively. Granted at this point it's an effective tool because opposing defenders still have to guard him out to the 3 point line. But if Stoudemire shows he still has his jumper, he can stretch opposing defenders out to 18 feet with no problem. And in his situation, the majority of the opposing defenders that guard Stat normally don't like going out into the perimeter to defend. In Novak's case, it's almost always a wing defender on him, so they're in their comfort zone defending him at all times.
If Novak is cloaked on the perimeter, he's useless. He can't penetrate on opposing defenders, he can barely dribble the ball and he obviously can't get his shot off of the dribble. Stoudemire is an incredibly versatile scorer who can pick and pop, pick and roll, shoot off the curl and find imaginative ways to get fouled.
If Stat can stretch the defense out to 18 feet with that midrange game that made him a 1st team all NBA player, it can solve our spacing issues immensely. It's only about a 3-4 foot difference compared to what Novak provides. People usually never lose their jumpers when they're as automatic as Stat's used to be, it's usually one of the last things to go from one's arsenal. He hasn't shown he has the jumper yet this year, but than again all of his buckets have come from post play, putbacks and broken plays.
Last edited by Dankster; 01-29-2013 at 03:24 PM.
Well down the stretch Woodson has been doing that.
Also, this team should play better with Melo at the 4. He truly can play the position. Provide an interior mid/low post presence allowing the team to work inside out. And he does defend the post well. Sure there are some mismatches against him defensively, but not a lot. Like i wouldn't even feel bad placing him against KG or Bosh for long stretches without doubles, because he does a fine job defending off the ball to help deny bigger guys the lower positioning that would actually get him in trouble. If they have to put the ball on the ground 10 ft away from the basket he has the advantage.
And it is true that Melo is usually defended by the other team's best perimeter defender. But going small on the offensive end makes it more likely that teams will switch on pick and rolls and allow him to get the bigs on the switch. And even if he doesn't play vs a big offensively, it can result in someone else having a mismatch. Shumpert vs Humphries is a big advantage to the Knicks. Eventually as Shump continues to get comfortable, they will be matchup nightmares offensively.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...170155862.htmlYet since Amar'e Stoudemire's return from injury on New Year's Day, Woodson is putting him on the court with Carmelo Anthony more than everó74% of Stoudemire's total minutes. Predictably, the results have been worse, too.
In Stoudemire's 199 minutes on the hardwood with Anthony, the Knicks are being outscored by 4.4 points per 100 possessions. In his 70 minutes without Anthony, the Knicks perform significantly better, though they are still outscored by 0.6 points per 100 possessions. When just playing Anthony this season, the Knicks outscore opponents by 6.1 points/100 possessions.
Their poor chemistry has been a factor in the Knicks playing just .500 ball in the 12 games since Stoudemire was activated. In their other 30 games, the Knicks are 21-9. This isn't all due to Stoudemire's return, but it is also true that the duo has never been dynamic while sharing the ball. Last year, the Knicks with Stoudemire and Anthony were outscored by 3.3 points/100 possessions.
I think Woodson is doing the right thing.
Gives him flexibility that if the "Big Front line" doesn't work with everyone back, he can move towards separating the players with Stat off the bench.
I think in the long run Stat's better there as a scoring punch against the other teams back ups. Just need to get Melo going again.
My Good Girl Good luck Charm
The issue is on D.. On D both Melo and Amare are below average defenders.. We cant afford to have both the offense and defense be a work in progress.. We should be able to rely on our D while we figure things out offensively..
The Heat was able to thrive when they were gelling due to outstanding D.. We need to pay attention to the defensive end when both guys are on the court more than offense.. I think in time the offense will take care of itself but if they cant stop anybody what will it matter?..
When that 48 minute game is down to 1 minute, and there are two possessions left, that spacing is critical for Melo to seal the deal. To me, the final possessions of the ATL game proved that.
Novaks spacing is very real, I agree when hes bottled up for 48 minutes it becomes overstated, but when you micromanage the final two possessions it has shown to be key, especially when its a given Melo is taking that shot. Your not doubling Melo with JR and Novak/Kidd on the floor. We saw what happened against BK when they doubled with 3 point shooters, Kidd burned them.
With Amare in the game late, they flashed Horford to Melo's side of the floor every single possession. With Amare out for the final possession, they didn't even attempt to double Melo and he won the game for us.
My Good Girl Good luck Charm
Bottom line... Melo has to hit the right man when he gets doubled. He cant force it. I'd always take the dunk or easy layup rather than swing it to Novak and hope that he's on that game.
Offense wins games. DEFENSE wins Championships!
If the knicks pick up henry sims and he becomes a regular in the rotation.
with novak and pablo coming in as needed.I would cut Kurt if need.