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    well he is gone thx god

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    remind me again, when do the excuses for losing stop?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHF View Post
    anyone who thinks that Calderon is better than Lowry doesn't know basketball, Calderon wasn't even better than Jack or Bayless let alone Lowry
    Yeah, thats why all coaches this 7 years have ended up ALWAYS giving calderon the job vs everybody.
    We all know Coaches like to lose games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcrooner View Post
    Yeah, thats why all coaches this 7 years have ended up ALWAYS giving calderon the job vs everybody.
    We all know Coaches like to lose games.
    that's because BC overpaid for him and forced the coaches to play him, and how is the team doing with him as a starting pg in the last 7 years? let me guess you are gonna blame everyone else and say he played with scrubs his whole career

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHF View Post
    that's because BC overpaid for him and forced the coaches to play him, and how is the team doing with him as a starting pg in the last 7 years? let me guess you are gonna blame everyone else and say he played with scrubs his whole career
    No, he had a ncie team with Parker, Garbajosa and Bosh.

    oh, they made the playoffs those years, go figure.

    Then Garbajosa got hurt, parker declined and went away, and bosh went away.....

    funny uh?

    DOnt worry tough, due to Rondo being out of the season i can see the celtics blowing it up and offering either Pierce or garnett for Jose to make a salary dump, so Jose as a raptor is ending soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcrooner View Post
    Yeah, thats why all coaches this 7 years have ended up ALWAYS giving calderon the job vs everybody.
    We all know Coaches like to lose games.
    and all those coaches are gone. your point being?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcrooner View Post
    No, he had a ncie team with Parker, Garbajosa and Bosh.

    oh, they made the playoffs those years, go figure.

    Then Garbajosa got hurt, parker declined and went away, and bosh went away.....

    funny uh?

    DOnt worry tough, due to Rondo being out of the season i can see the celtics blowing it up and offering either Pierce or garnett for Jose to make a salary dump, so Jose as a raptor is ending soon.
    ohh lord i dont know if i should laugh or cry

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    We're gonna see how good Calderon is when Bargnani comes back. I'm praying that it doesn't turn into their classic 2 man game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    We're gonna see how good Calderon is when Bargnani comes back. I'm praying that it doesn't turn into their classic 2 man game.
    as long as Calderon and Bargs play big minutes we wont sniff the playoffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHF View Post
    as long as Calderon and Bargs play big minutes we wont sniff the playoffs
    No matter how you slice it the odds are against us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BHF View Post
    as long as Calderon and Bargs play big minutes we wont sniff the playoffs
    together? absolutely agree.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    We're gonna see how good Calderon is when Bargnani comes back. I'm praying that it doesn't turn into their classic 2 man game.
    if calderon can raise bargnani's value nough to be more easily traded, I could care less what they're like on the court.

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    Man if Bargnani just gave a crap this team could be very good.
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    calderon is consistent and not erratic and a wild card like lowry is.. those reflect poor team performance not calderon's supposed negative impact on the game against good teams.

    GO JAYS GO!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3mikee_ View Post
    calderon is consistent and not erratic and a wild card like lowry is.. those reflect poor team performance not calderon's supposed negative impact on the game against good teams.
    I agree with you on this one. Young teams need consistency offensively especially. Calderon comes in, he isn't flashy, he isn't going to break your ankles with a move...but he is going to be consistent every day and get everyone involved in the game...and everyone knows what to expect when they step on the floor with him. Some call that chemistry...I don't know if its chemistry or just a different way of leading a team. I'm pretty sure that Calderon could walk on the floor with any team and play the exact same way with them.

    I like Lowry, and I like the agressive style, but he has to be able to play that style within the abilities of the other 4 players on the floor with him, and so far he has only shown he can do that in flashes. I do believe that he is going to be moved because he seems to be unable to adjust his game. He is a strong player, individually a better player than calderon...but not a better TEAM player....and this team needs a TEAM player to lead them.

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