My apologies boys. Had some house problems yesterday and forgot to make a thread. Didn't start watching the game till 11... and I kinda wish I didn't after the first. It was all going downhill again. Two games in a row where we got outclassed after the first. I expected it from the Rangers though.
The goalie during UFA or a trade may work but developing one is nice also.
The goalie market is actualyl fairly interesting the next two years and I'd make an investment if I was the Leafs
We're not looking at RFA's so here is the UFA goalies for the next two offseasons.
All 3 are way too old. (Backstrom is 34 going on 35, and at this point we want someone who will be effective for 5 years ideally). For a short term situation if we draft/develop a goalie it might be worth a guy like Thomas.
But here are the following options if we want to splurge.
30 year old Mike Smith
28 year old Jimmy Howard
Neither are quite the cream of the crop when it comes to goalies but are certainly above average.
2014 will have a 31 year old Henrik Lundqvist, 33 year old Ryan Miller, 37 year old Mikka Kiprusoff, 31 year old Jonas Hiller, 28 year old Jaroslav Halak, 29 year old Corey Crawford.
I doubt we'll ever have a chance at Lundqvist.
So here are my top options (most of whom won't hit FA especially the 2014 guys)
1, Jimmy Howard
2, Mike Smith
3, Ryan Miller
4, Jonas hiller
I'd love to snag Hiller if he made it to FA. Obviously any of those guys would be thetits but Hiller after a full(shortened) season without any set back after injury trouble would be bomb. Guy's a great goalie. He can steal a game. Haven't seen a goalie do that here since Belfour sadly enough. Wasn't that like 10 years ago or so?
Then we know about the last two years.
What I was trying to say is the CORE has to come from the draft. Toews, Kane, Seabrook, Keith did come from the draft. Sedin twins, Kesler, Edler, and Burrows (undrafted) came from the draft. Bruins came from the draft. Malkin, Crosby, Staal, Fleury came from the draft. Etc.
Those +/- stats don't shock me. The fact Kotska or Kostka or whoever he is plays 20 minutes a night is down right laughable to say the least.
^ Kostka has been pretty solid considering but yeah we shouldn't have him playing that much. What kills us is playing Dion 32 minutes. The guy started out strong against the rags but just wore out. Carlyle has nothing else to work with. Just watch late in the season Dion will be even worse or might even get injured, we need Liles, Gunnar, and Gardiner to take minutes from him. Watch Dion closely every game, he starts off well and then just falls off. It's going to get worse because we know how Carlyle likes to match lines, and it was exposed last night (Saturday). If Chara can get burned by the NYR top line then anyone can.
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There's Olympic superpowers that can't put a top line together like NYR haha. Dion and Kostco were in wayyy over their heads. Dion's not suited for a shutdown role. The day they took him off the 2nd pairing in Calgary and moved him up to the top in more of a defensive role is coincidently when he started his down fall/regression call it what you want. Never the same player he was when he was sheltered.
I think I went through 2 pairs of underwear every time that line came on the ice for NYR.
Dion is currently 2nd in average time on ice behind Doughty with almost 28 minutes. That's almost 10 minutes more then he should be playing. Dion's never been a guy that pushes guys off the puck, he was an open ice hitter that got that big-tough guy rep and some leaf fans look at his rep and salary and ignore what position he is best suited for.
Nonis has to look for another 20 minute dman, give NYI a call and see if you can lure Vishnovsky from the KHL. If not then Carlyle needs to lean more on Liles and stop putting Franson and Komi in the line up and limiting them to 15 minutes. If Dion continue this pace he's going to get seriously injured and that +/- that some are focusing in on will continue to drop.
Dion is the best Dman we have right now but we have to pull minutes from him and i suggest taking him off the PP. It will take away his points but if they are going to have him on the PK all the time they need him to be fresh. Fatigue isn't just physical it's mental as well, and the majority of his errors happen to be mental. Sure he wasn't the brightest and well-positioned dman before but you can clearly see how fast and easily he wears off. He flattened Nash and held that line in check early on in the game, then the 3rd period hits (Dion was already at 22 minutes after 2 periods BTW)... and he falls off just like every other game, just look at the NYI game.
I know it looks like i'm just being a Leafs homer or defending Dion when some think it's stupid to, but look at the position he's been put into. That would be unheard of in his days in Calgary, but somehow it's Dions fault and he's a scrub because he can't stop arguably the most lethal line in the NHL. He isn't the best captain in the league but who else is captain material here? Grabo? Lupul? some didn't even want them to re-sign here, Kessel? Gardiner? nope too young and too one-dimensional. Dion (good at it or not) sticks up for his teammates when neccessary, not all the time because that would be stupid to give away your best Dman to a penalty but he's the best we got in terms of leadership. At anytime Dion could have called out this team for the **** that he's been forced to play with, i mean Carl Gunnarsson barely cracks the top four on a playoff contender yet he's the best defensive dman Dion's had here, yet it's dions fault we suck defensively
The coach of the LA kings and former Calgary Flames coach Daryl Sutter once said that Phanuef will make mistakes because he is not afraid of making mistakes, but he gives it 100% every time. He called him a leader and a constant competitor because he knows whats expected of him and always tries to do more (the jist of a few quotes, my ending starts here) but we have to understand that no matter how much players compete sometimes they just aren't meant to succeed at every facet of the game. I'd be really interested in hearing what some scouts and Daryl have to say now, they'd most likely rip us for having him play in the situations he does. But hey maybe we can call Calgary and see if we can take Stajan back, 18 points last year and only a -3 .
Goaltending... that is all.
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@ practice today
That finger might be worse than thought.David Alter @DavidAlter590
JVR-Bozak-Kessel, McClement-Grabovski-Kulemin, Frattin-Kadri-Komarov, Brown-Steckel-Orr. MacArthur missing.
Anyone know what Jeff Finger is doing these days? I would seriously consider him to help out at the league minimum