I imagine sample size plays a huge role in this. I love Jimmy and what he's done so far, but I feel it hard to come to a conclusion at this point, since Jimmy's sample size is so small. I love his speed though, and believe his athleticism helps as well. Just feel it's still early to crown him over Deng.
Regarding the game against LAL: Kobe has been in a slump and certainly played a part in how awful he shot that game. At the same time, I thought Jimmy did a great job in terms of staying with/in front of Kobe, and I felt like Kobe only had a few chances of being able to get to the rim (due in part to the help defense provided by our bigs). Not trying to take any credit from Butler, but I'd like to see him go 40 min against a Lebron or KD.
Still, I love Jimmy Buckets and have been impressed at what he's done with the increased minutes. Hopefully he isn't too dead tired after this three game stint as a starter.
I'm high on Butler as well but cmon.
I mean, at what point can we say he might be the better defender? What is an OK sample to use? I certainly can't answer that question, because as we've discussed sampling is really hard to judge. All I can say is that I know Butler is a damn good defensive player. His .53PPP against in his starts along with his .76 the rest of the year before that indicate as much. Last year he had a .80, IIRC, which was equal to Deng and Brewer. And, to that end, his iso defense was far lower than either of theirs.
How good a defender is he? I don't really know, but I also am not going to take what he's done and say that people who think he IS better are wrong. Overall? Deng is clearly the better player still, but as a defender? I don't know. I was merely putting that out there, not actually taking a side, because I honestly don't know, which is more a testament to Butler being impressive than any slight against Deng, who I think is one of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA.
I also get that his numbers have come in less playing time, but I'm not going to just outright dismiss them, because he's shown that in a lot, lot, lot heavier minutes he's still capable of doing it. So, I won't crown him but I'm not going to step on anyone's toes that feel like he's the better 1 on 1 defender.
Last edited by Doogolas; 01-25-2013 at 04:52 PM.
Deng, rather easily for me. Especially on rotation defense, and people forget that Deng does it for 40 mins a night while also being expected to be the leading scorer on offense. Jimmy hasn't been tested at all like that.
lu,though jimmy has surprised me
I really don't have a problem with the comparison besides the irrational exuberance it generates - something you are not guilty of. It's great that the Bulls have this "problem" now where Butler has stepped into Deng's role and fit in perfectly and, more importantly, it's a nightmare for every other team in the league. I do, however, always believed basketball is much more the team sport than is commonly accepted and that's the reason I seem to be more of a vocal dissenter for what Jimmy Buckets is accomplishing.
It's clear Jimmy has a gift and it certainly merits more playing time. I really hope he gets that opportunity.
I'll go with Luol. I need a bigger sample size to put Jimmy over Luol, but i will say this lil Jimmy have impressed me during this stretch.
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I have no preference. Love them both. They are both great! Deng is more experienced of course... but no preference