Jacoby Ford or DHB

[RAIDERCOACH]

Please stop saying he can't catch.

yeah what he said!

[the_firm_09]

Without changing the names on the jerseys, I`d expect much of the same results in 2013. All the receivers spend to much time missing football games, Dhb has fantastic blocking skills however his name and a Pro Bowl invitation will forever be strangers, just like the rest of them lol.

[raider77]

He sure has a S on his side a lot.

Hmm??

DC''s think he is good enough to put a S over the CB defending him as they do it quite a bit.

This is true and i actually support the kid alot and im a fan of the young man. I dont think he has Aj green talent lol but he makes plays for us, and i dont think his hands are as bad as some like to make it out to be.

[slvr&blck760]

You do realize productivity of WR's can go down when the total offense struggles right?

DHB was not the problem.

Last year was one season. I'll give everybody on offense a pass based on playcalling. But again, last year was only 1 year in four. What's DHB's excuse for the other 3 seasons? Sure he's improved, but has he played up to par with his salary? I personally don't think so. I expect much more out of him. Think about this: DHB was paid more than Anquan Boldin, Roddy White and Larry Fitzgerald in 2012. He's not worth that type of cash and cannot be compared to any of the players I just mentioned. Just stop and think about it.

[fishedz]

Last year was one season. I'll give everybody on offense a pass based on playcalling. But again, last year was only 1 year in four. What's DHB's excuse for the other 3 seasons? Sure he's improved, but has he played up to par with his salary? I personally don't think so. I expect much more out of him. Think about this: DHB was paid more than Anquan Boldin, Roddy White and Larry Fitzgerald in 2012. He's not worth that type of cash and cannot be compared to any of the players I just mentioned. Just stop and think about it.

No need to give any of the WR's a pass

CP3 threw for 4k yards for God's sake... Doesn't matter who is OC, that is no excuse for WR's and should have actually padded their stats for the better. Why does everyone give CP3 a pass, bring up his 4k number, and assume he had a great year and was the only good player on the offense while the WR's get a pass for putting up nothing??

Our WR's suck period, they have no excuse for lack of productivity last season. If anything, we should have had two 1k WR's with as much as we passed.

[the_firm_09]

Look for Oakland to sign Jennings, Driver and Finley as the Raiders officially become the Packers lol.

[the_firm_09]

No need to give any of the WR's a pass

CP3 threw for 4k yards for God's sake... Doesn't matter who is OC, that is no excuse for WR's and should have actually padded their stats for the better. Why does everyone give CP3 a pass, bring up his 4k number, and assume he had a great year and was the only good player on the offense while the WR's get a pass for putting up nothing??

Our WR's suck period, they have no excuse for lack of productivity last season. If anything, we should have had two 1k WR's with as much as we passed.

Palmer doesn`t get a pass here, it`s not a big secret the Raiders have a losing quarterback. It won`t be easy upgrading the receiver position with Palmer behind center, he`s a career killer and everyone knows it except the Raider fans.

Jennings and Driver may surface in New England with Reed, maybe 2 out of 3.

[SnakeforCanton]

You do realize football is a team game right?

Most of his INTs were when teams "trapped" him out of the 2 deep shell. The CB jumps the route knowing he has S help over the top.

If you don't want trap coverages then run the football effectively.

Does the fact we couldn't run the ball factor in to that criticism?

Do you know how not running the ball effects coverages?

Blaming CP for our problems only exposes you as a typical know nothing fan.

Sorry but the shoe fits!

Da Swami great to see you again. We have missed your razor sharp witt and expert analysis

[raiderdave]

Da Swami great to see you again. We have missed your razor sharp witt and expert analysis

Great to see you on here too snake

[raiderdave]

Palmer doesn`t get a pass here, it`s not a big secret the Raiders have a losing quarterback. It won`t be easy upgrading the receiver position with Palmer behind center, he`s a career killer and everyone knows it except the Raider fans.

Jennings and Driver may surface in New England with Reed, maybe 2 out of 3.

best raider qbs of all time

1. Jim Plunkett
2. Ken Stabler
3. Daryle Lamonica
4. Carson Palmer
5. Rich Gannon
6. George Blanda
7. Jeff Hostetler
8.Tom Flores
9. Jay schroeder
10.Vince Evans

[the_firm_09]

best raider qbs of all time

1. Jim Plunkett
2. Ken Stabler
3. Daryle Lamonica
4. Carson Palmer
5. Rich Gannon
6. George Blanda
7. Jeff Hostetler
8.Tom Flores
9. Jay schroeder
10.Vince Evans

Palmer gets the number 4 lifetime spot with an 8 - 16 effort? I don`t think so Dave, honestly for me at this time, he doesn`t make the list.

[themadstork]

Lol...thats a pretty hideous list. No offense Dave, just not a lot to work with.

Pretty much Stabler, Plunkett, Gannon and maybe Hostetler....the rest are either before my time or awful.

-Stork

[SnakeforCanton]

best raider qbs of all time

1. Jim Plunkett
2. Ken Stabler
3. Daryle Lamonica
4. Carson Palmer
5. Rich Gannon
6. George Blanda
7. Jeff Hostetler
8.Tom Flores
9. Jay schroeder
10.Vince Evans

Wow. I like you a lot dave but to put Ken Stabler at #2 is WWWWWAAAYYY out of line

[Maxfly]

best raider qbs of all time

1. Jim Plunkett
2. Ken Stabler
3. Daryle Lamonica
4. Carson Palmer
5. Rich Gannon
6. George Blanda
7. Jeff Hostetler
8.Tom Flores
9. Jay schroeder
10.Vince Evans

Why isn't Nassib on that list!!!! This is just crazy ,he should at least get an acknowledgment of what he's doing ..

[blakersburris]

DHB doesn't produce for the amount of cash he is paid. Case closed.

If DHB and Ford were same price, I'd re-consider. But maybe not, I like Ford on ST.