drummond.
dont sleep on rivers, he shouldnt have come out this year but hes got the skill to be a 20pts per guy, he'll just have a longer learning curve.
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Anthony Davis
Andre Drummond
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drummond.
dont sleep on rivers, he shouldnt have come out this year but hes got the skill to be a 20pts per guy, he'll just have a longer learning curve.
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I'll take the guy who nearly averages a double double with only 20 mpg
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Lillard doesn't really have to get much better. Its Lillard, cuz I don't know how well Davis, Drummond, and sullinger hold up after they get some miles on them. Though I think Drummond and Davis have insane upside if they stay healthy. Lillard came into the league as a polished pro, he's ROY and I think his game is tailored to today's nba.
Lillard is pretty healthy and already he has the best offensive game
Drummond is way too raw offensively and is playing off the bench against backups. Would he have the same success playing against starters? doubt it
I think Lillard is overrated. He's got a good team but they're still not in the playoffs with him running the point. Drummond should get more minutes, around 30. He can certainly average a double double each night. Also, Lillard is old for a "rookie." He's had a huge head start and still produces average stats.
haha overrated good one. And explain how he is on a good team we were predicted to finish in the high lottery when the season started lillard's play as made everyone around him better batum and wesley are playing the best basketball of their careers and a lot has to do with the play of Lillard at the PG position. Lillard will be the best player out of this class when it is all said and done he is already looking like he will end up being one of the best overall players in the league in a couple years.
Oscar Taveras
2013 Stats
G:31 Avg: .317 HR:4 RBI:20 2B:8 SB:5 OBP: .351 SLG: .480 OPS: .831
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There's a reason why people on this forum is voting for Drummond and not Lillard.
1) Lillard played college ball for 3 years.
2) Lillard is 22 years old.
That means Lillard should be averaging those stats and more. He also only has 6-7 years to improve because once he hits 29, he'll start declining. His FG% is terrible. His team should be winning much more with that kind of roster.
Drummond on the other hand is 19 years old. He's averaging 20 MPG with 7 RPG and 8 PPG. His FG% is 60% and he's a big man. That means he's going to have huge value in a small league of today. He's also averaging 1.6 BPG. Lillard is definitely rookie of the year but if you think he's going to turn to Chris Paul next season or the seasons after, you must be dreaming. The only reason Drummond isn't ROTY is because he's only averaging 20 minutes. If this guy averaged the same amount of minutes Lillard is playing, double his stats up to 14 RPG, 16 PPG, and 3.2 BPG. That's the best center.
You gonna double up Drummonds minutes against back-ups or starters? And what's gonna happen when they just start hackin him and sending him to the line, where he is AWFUL? Can't play him reliably down the stretch against motivated opponents. Regardless of Lillards age, weber state to the nba, and this is his adjustment period? Give him two more years to cut down the turnovers, polish the field goal percentage (though his adjusted field goal percentage is 49%), another assist and half, and he is a borderline top 5 point guard.
Okay, so James Harden was the sixth man last year. Gave him more minutes and look what he's doing. How do you get to the point where Drummond is playing bench players? How do you know when he's inserted into the rotation? You don't. You just assume that since he's coming off the bench, he's playing the likes of Brian Scalabrine or something. You seem to disclose the fact that he's 22. The question is who will have the best career. He's already 3 years older than Drummond and has 5-7 years to be an elite player. Drummond has nearly 10.
If you looked into my first post, I said Drummond has insane upside, I'm not hatin on him. I'm just saying the way you say I can't assume when he's coming into the rotation, you can't assume he's just gonna double up on all his numbers when he gets more minutes like that. Lillard's posting high minute totals and producing at a top 10 pg level. I'm just going with what I consider a proven commodity, over potential. As you said, harden was 6th man of the year, so I don't really see the comparison. Harden was also regarded as a starter on pretty much any other team. Harden is not necessarily the rule. And as far as age, I like a guard with great control and coming into the league with a mostly filled out frame, as opposed a big who's body is obviously still filling out. And where did I say anything about scalabrine?
Kidd-Gilchrist is my favorite player from this class. I think he will better than Davis, Lillard, Drummond and everyone else.
Lol you act like he ONLY plays against backups. Thats simply not true.
I can play that game too though. Ross isn't playing half as good as Drummond and he comes off the bench also. Hes not even playing good against other bench players! Will he even be in the NBA in a couple years?
Exactly.
In those 20 MPG Drummond gets, he is EASILY our best player. Even better than Monroe. I think if he started the rest of the season he would average about 10 points, 10 rebounds, 2.5 blocks with very good defense.
Last edited by Gators123; 01-24-2013 at 05:11 PM.
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