lol Boehner sounds like a whiny baby. welcome to politics, Boehner. can't stand the heat? get out of the kitchen.
I assume this is in contrast to Republican's desires to see a strong and thriving Democrat party?
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And they will. Basically, what is going to happen in the next 25-30 years is the libertarians are going to take over the Republican party.
Libertarianism is the way of the future. Big government liberalism is failing miserably, and social conservatism is also failing miserably.
Of course. I for one, am shocked, SHOCKED, by the fact that President Obama favors the Democratic Party. It's almost like he's a member of it or something.Originally Posted by natepro
Of course, after two Hillary terms we will see a very different SCOTUS, one that will, I hope, put an end to gerrymandering and corporations as people, just for starters. Once gerrymandering is outlawed, the Reps will truly be totally screwed for ever - unless, they figure out how to rid the party of the insidious influence of the completely crazy wing, and return to being a rational participant in the process of government, one capable of dialogue and cooperation.
The only other thing I want to restate, is none of them work in a pure basis, all of them work when mixed with each other. We now live, and always have lived in a mixed society. As I pointed out to another member of this board, socialism was written right into our Constitution (not by name, but by action of law), by the founding fathers. They also wrote a fair amount of libertarianism. We have not been pure from the beginning.
Here is the question of the day, does anyone think that wealthy people should pay a lower percentage of their income to taxes than middle class people? Don't argue tax brackets, just a simple question. Do you think someone earning 46 million dollars should pay a lower percentage of their income than say someone earning sixty thousand?
The Tea Party is hurting the GOP mainly because of the bigots present in them, they need to go away. Otherwise the country will be turned over to spending authoritarian-style governing of the liberals.
French writer Alexis de Tocqueville warned about when visiting this fledgling democracy in the early 19th century – that this "American republic will endure until politicians realize they can bribe the people with their own money."
I'm still waiting for why I care. The President should do his best to advocate the policy that they believe will make the country better off than the other policies.
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Without going into a major rant, let me just say that in Europe in 2000, all major media sources pretty much agreed that it looked for all the world like one of the candidate's brothers, using his own party machinery in the state that he ran, had used every dirty, underhand, malicious, and downright criminal, trick in the book to ensure that his brother stole the presidential election. That is what every single person I knew at the time believed. At the very least, the Dems had some very serious real **** to be paranoid about after the 2000 election. So, without having lived in the US at the time, my opinion would be that you cannot compare the Dems post-2000 reaction with the Reps post-2012 behavior. Also, there was not a substantial part of the Dem party then that could remotely be called batshit crazy in the US context, whereas the Tea baggers.....
But yes Jeffy25, you are exactly right. There was significant discussion by democrats pertaining to the GOP trying to destroy the dem party, and they took stock and reforumulated new strategies, and look how that worked out for them- pretty well- if you consider being ****ed up six ways from Sunday a good thing, but that's for another thread.
What gets me though is that no one should need to be trying to destroy the GOP. There is so much wrong with it now that it desperately needs a complete overhaul, or to fall into the dustbin of history so that another platform can take its place.
Thinking deeper about it, being so early in Obama's second term it will be interesting to see if the GOP keeps it's blind obstructionism, or adopts a new strategy.
I hope Boehner's comment doesn't mean that the Repubicans will be playing the victim for the next 4 years...
The two-party system just needs to go. Republicans, and Democrats, are too focused on their party, and not making actual progress. I am definitely more liberal, but I will be the first to admit that the same thing happens in the Democratic Party. Maybe to a lesser extent IMO, but it is still there.
This article is a perfect example. Nothing about hurting the country or anything, just about hurting his party. We need to open up our eyes, and just get **** done. Everyone can have their opinions and ideas, thats fine. But it comes down to what works and doesnt work for that situation.
For the most part, neither side is willing to reach across the aisle and try to find something that works. Not compromise for the sake of compromise like Obama has done so the GOP will support it. But just look at the facts, listen to everything that is said, and figure out what will work and what wont.
I know it isnt always that simple, but there has to be a better way than whats currently happening.