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    Hawks Attendance

    How bad is it? Does it take away from the experience at Phillips Arena?

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    In the bottom half of league, partly because we don't have a superstar player or much winning tradition, but when the building is full (playoffs, certain marquee matchups), it gets as loud as any I've been in.

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    If we added Dwight alone, this would change...now both Howard and Paul while resigning Smith....well, you know

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    Do people in the city really care about the team? Honestly looking through their attendance figures so far this season, they've had numerous games at just over 10,000

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    People care about the team but 1. until very recently the owners showed very little care for the team and 2. the public transportation in Atlanta is lackluster, almost anybody who wants to go to a game has to drive.

    It doesn't justify a low attendance some games, just explains some of it. Hopefully, we can make a splash this offseason and Philips will be louder and more full all of next year.

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    This is still a playoff team, getting less fans than the Bobcats

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    ^The fact that it's a playoff team doesn't really matter because, first and foremost, the NBA is a star-driven league. More than half the teams (16 of 30) get into the playoffs every year, so it's not much of an accomplishment unless you can make a deep run. But the teams that have marquee players (and real winning tradition) are the ones with great attendance no matter what their record is. The exception is a few teams in smaller markets where there is no competition for entertainment dollars -- Portland, Utah, etc have good attendance.

    Another factor is that unlike most major American cities, Atlanta is a transient town. Almost no one who lives here was actually born here, so those people have zero connection with the local teams. And if there are no star players, those "potential fans" have no reason to buy tickets to Philips. You need a star to get any national TV exposure, that's just how the league markets itself under David Stern.

    And finally, the track record of bad ownership and front office mistakes has cost them fan support more than anything. The last superstar who played for the Hawks was traded away nearly 20 years ago at midseason (http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/26/sp...ue.html?src=pm) when they had the best team in the Eastern Conference. That was the last time they had a roster with a legitimate chance to win the championship (http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/1994.html) and their front office threw it away with that mid-season deal. Decisions like that one (and countless others) completely turned off a lot of local fans, most of whom never came back.

    If the Hawks landed a superstar (or two) and finally became a real contender, instead of just being playoff fodder, then attendance would certainly go up. But until then, most objective people view the Hawks as a franchise that is good enough to get into the playoffs but never good enough to threaten for the title. Even the most die hard Atlanta sports fans are tired of wasting money on teams that are not serious about winning championships -- the local pro teams have combined to win only one championship in over 120 seasons of play. People are sick of being the butt of sports jokes for just making the playoffs only to watch them fail year after year, while other teams actually make blockbuster deals and lift the trophies.
    Last edited by Bravo95; 01-26-2013 at 07:20 PM.

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    ^good points...

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    ^^ Very well written 95. That's exactly what happened. After that happened to Nique, I became a Magic fan. I liked Penny Hardaway, Shaq, Dennis Scott, Nick Anderson and the gang anyway. It was a shame, because Nique is my all-time favorite player. Loved that team with Malone, Willis, Webb, Nique....Hawks ended up with Steve Smith and Christian later but still never gained back that strong team. I hate the NBA anymore, where the few and far between stars all get together on teams I hate like NY, LA and MIA. I like Durant and OKC now.
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    ^Steve Smith was good, but I couldn't stand Laettner from his Duke days so I wasn't a fan of acquiring him either. He had one good year here then fell off a cliff. Same with Glenn Robinson, I always felt like he was the guy holding back those Milwaukee Bucks teams, then we go out and trade for him? Terrible. Like I said, I know people who became permanent fans of their "2nd team" like the Knicks, Pacers, Sixers, etc and just never came back.

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    It was a shame, because Nique is my all-time favorite player. Loved that team with Malone, Willis, Webb, Nique....Hawks ended up with Steve Smith and Christian later but still never gained back that strong team. I hate the NBA anymore, where the few and far between stars all get together on teams I hate like NY, LA and MIA. I like Durant and OKC now. ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Getting UGGLA View Post
    I hate the NBA anymore, where the few and far between stars all get together on teams I hate like NY, LA and MIA. I like Durant and OKC now.
    I don't have a "2nd team" but I follow Kevin Love's career, as he is my favorite non-Hawk (would love for it to all come together and just have him on the Hawks ).

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