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    What constitutes a PED?

    Obviously we consider HGH, Testosterone and anabolic steroids as performance enhansing drugs, but are there others that should be considered.

    Say you have a player who is athletically gifted enough to play MLB. Problem is, he has ZERO focus and drive to pursue this life or train for it. This player starts taking prescription medication to change his chemical makeup. Suddenly he has focus, desire to train and finds himself a ML allstar intead of a high School Coach. If these drugs were not available 20 years ago, does this give an unfair advantage?

    If drugs can focus and alter ones desire to thrive, should they be considered a PED?

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    coffee and redbull too

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    A performance enhancer.

    Caffeine isn't a performance enhancer, it's a performance enabler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Wait a minute....you're trying to tell me that something that enhances performance falls under the category of a performance enhancing drug?
    Sounds completely ridiculous.

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    Coffee and Red Bull just give you the energy, it doesn't add any more strength like PEDs.

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    Mike Morse isn't getting my HOF vote, I guarantee that.

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    hot dogs and beer
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    Anything that actually enhances your performance.

    Things such as alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana and prescription drugs given by a doctor for legitimate reasons are not PED's. Coffee, energy drinks, etc., are stimulants, not perfomance enhancers.

    Anything that unnaturally makes your body bigger, or enables you to be stronger as a result of steroids, HGH, testosterone, and IMO, to an extent even creatine are all PED's.
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    ^^A lot of the non-ped can affect your body in unnatural ways, anything and everything can- benefits vary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankees90. View Post
    Anything that actually enhances your performance.

    Things such as alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana and prescription drugs given by a doctor for legitimate reasons are not PED's. Coffee, energy drinks, etc., are stimulants, not perfomance enhancers.

    Anything that unnaturally makes your body bigger, or enables you to be stronger as a result of steroids, HGH, testosterone, and IMO, to an extent even creatine are all PED's.
    I know what you mean but can your performance not be enhanced by "stimulants"? Isn't that why people drink coffee on the way to work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    hot dogs and beer
    we need to remove the babe fropm the hof

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sretep75 View Post
    Coffee and Red Bull just give you the energy, it doesn't add any more strength like PEDs.
    PED's don't add strength by themselves. The player still needs to work out to gain the strength.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkelly7 View Post
    we need to remove the babe fropm the hof
    surprised more players dont go that route, it clearly works!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1972 Cubs View Post
    PED's don't add strength by themselves. The player still needs to work out to gain the strength.
    Which is the point of this thread. If HGH helps the athlete to recover quicker so that he can work out more, play harder and bounce back, why would a perscription drug taken to sharpen ones focus to work out more thus play harder and concetrate at the plate more not be considered the same advantage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1972 Cubs View Post
    PED's don't add strength by themselves. The player still needs to work out to gain the strength.
    Yep just neutralizes the healing time, which every person does not have an equal advantage of. But that's ok.

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