Fun Facts

[WadeKobe]

I was looking at baseball stuff today and saw some fun stats I thought I'd share with everyone.


40 Home Run Hitters:

2000: 16
2009-12: 15

Rafael Palmeiro hit 38+ HR in 9 consecutive seasons (most all-time).


Dante Bichette:

1995: .340/40 HR/128 RBI (2nd in MVP Voting)
1996: .313/31 HR/ 141 RBI

He posted a total of 2.7 fWAR and 1.4 rWAR over that 2-season period. LOL.

[SenorGato]

I still don't think it's sunk in with a great deal of baseball fans the offensive environment the league has been in since 2009.

[metswon69]

Yeah league average OPS number in 2000 for example was .782.

Last year it was .724..

It's amazing how much offense has dropped off.

[Jeffy25]

Yeah league average OPS number in 2000 for example was .782.

Last year it was .724..

It's amazing how much offense has dropped off.

Or pitching has picked up

Baseball is very cyclical. We see these peaks and valleys every ten years.

[metswon69]

Or pitching has picked up

Baseball is very cyclical. We see these peaks and valleys every ten years.

Well i cut my off my own point.

I should have said "It's amazing how much offense has dropped off because of the less pervasive PED use and the improvement of pitching as a whole"

My bad

[Jeffy25]

I just want to share a fun fact

Seth Smith
2011 Colorado Rockies
.284/.347/.383 - .355 wOBA, 110 OPS+
2012 Oakland Athletics
.240/.333/.420 - .325 wOBA, 109 OPS+

30 points in wOBA, and the same OPS+

[roylikeswaffles]

Interesting to see him get similar offensive value with completely differently production values.

[Jeffy25]

I was more so pointing out the home park factors lol.

[WadeKobe]

I was more so pointing out the home park factors lol.

That's one of the main reason Bichette's WAR was so low those two years. Despite his astronomical production, when you factor in era and park, he was average for LF.

[Jeffy25]

Those that like to talk about how under-valued they feel stealing bases is.


Check out this game from 2000 between the Marlins and Padres

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00005180.shtml

Marlins stole 10 bases on 10 attempts, scored 2 runs and lost the game.

Yikes

[canefandynasty]

Albert Pujols 2012 fWAR rate: 3.49

Albert Pujols career fWAR rate: 6.78

[Yankees90.]

Those that like to talk about how under-valued they feel stealing bases is.


Check out this game from 2000 between the Marlins and Padres

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bo...00005180.shtml

Marlins stole 10 bases on 10 attempts, scored 2 runs and lost the game.

Yikes

Now, before I start, in no way am I saying RBI's are a "great" stat, but doesn't it come back to that argument somewhat? I mean, the debate is always RBI doesn't matter because some teams put more runners on then others, and although Player A has more RBI then Player B, Player B might still be better, and that is definitely true. BUT, 10 stolen bases on 10 attempts? I mean damn, wtf were they waiting for? Sure wouldn't mind having an RBI guy up there for those situations. Like I said before, it still takes more skill to drive in a run then it does to just get on base.

Now don't get me wrong Jeffy. I do agree. Stolen Bases can be as over valued as they are undervalued. And I in no way, shape or form believe RBI is an awesome stat. Just saying wouldn't mind having the guy that drives in 120 runs in that situation lol. A little off topic but just something that I was thinking.

[Yankees90.]

BTW, out of curiosity Jeffy, how many hours a day do you spend on baseball? Lol

I ask because damn, I probably would have never dug up a Padres/Marlins game from 2000 lol

[Jeffy25]

RBI's matter.

They are just worthless for player evaluation. They are misleading.

They still count. It's still a counting stat of the number of runs a player drove in.

You just shouldn't use it to compare or evaluate players.

[SenorGato]

Oh I have one that I love to think about when I hear about Starlin Castro's walks:

Starlin Castro

2010: .347 OBP (.324 in the NL) and .300 BA (.255 NL)
2011: .341 OBP (.319 in the NL) and .307 BA (.253 NL)
2012: .323 OBP (.318 in the NL) and .283 BA (.254 NL)

Derek Jeter

1996: .314/.370 (.277/.350 in the AL)
1997: .291/.370 (.271/.340 in the AL)
1998: .324/.384 (.372/.340 in the AL)

Jeter's big 1999 coincides with the league jumping up again (.275/.347).

Note that the only years where they're the same age there is Starlin's 2012 and Jeter's 1996. They are both 22 that season.

I honestly completely forgot Jeter had a couple sub-.300 years in his 20's. His 19 HRs in 1998 might be less impressive than Castro's 14 last year considering the context. The AL alone almost hit 2500 HRs in 1998 (literally 2499) and put up a .432 SLG. The NL in 2012 hit 65 less HRs (more than I thought) and put up a .400 SLG.

No, Starlin Castro is not the next Jeter, but if there were a contest for the guy with the best shot he would be it. Plus our differences are what make us special!