I think our draft should be
Trade 29 to buffalo for 41 and 74
trade 74 and 91 for 52
41 Matt Elam SS Florida
Hard Hitting Enforcer safety that we need badly
52 Khaseeme Green/Arthur Brown LB Rutgers and Kansas State
both are good cover lbs that we need
59 Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech
My favorite player in the draft versatile, good on 1 on 1's great at the senior bowl
205 Tyrann Mathieu CB LSU/KR
Honey Badger slot cb adds toughness and physicality to the defense
221 William Campbell DT Michigan
former 5 star recruit had to switch to OT for a year has a lot of potential
No to Reed.
#1. We've got a FS, he's our best S, and he's good, if not great. We also have two other safties who seem to be more FS or combo S's, but not SS's. So in terms of need, he's not a good fit.
#2. Our only true SS is oft injured and appears gone, unless he signs a min deal and accepts he's a goal line in the box, no cover S only. If not, and even if so - we need a SS we can depend on, not what Reed brings.
#3. Ed Reed will not be the next Rodney Harrison. Ed Reed is a better football player then Rodney career wise and that's saying something. But, Harrison didn't turn age 31 until December of his first year here. Reed will be turning 35 in September. Rodney started going down the tubes at age 33 and he was never the same. Reed peaked out in 2008 - a long time ago.
#4. Even given all that, if Reed wants to come for short money, you make room for him, but if he wants say $10M for two years, with half up front? No.
Could have had him in 2002 with our #1 pick instead of Graham... ouch.
Last edited by bagwell368; 01-30-2013 at 12:26 PM.
High praise from Reed concerning BB:
http://bostonherald.com/sports/patri...bill_belichick"Yeah, oh yeah, man, I could definitely play for coach Belichick," Reed responded. "He is a great coach. I'm sure he can help me to expand my football knowledge even more as a player and as a coach, so if I'm ever able to be around him, just like I was at the Pro Bowl, it's huge. It's the reason why I wear my sweater cut off a little bit. He's the first guy I saw like, 'That's cool.' You know, that's cool. He cuts those sweater sleeves, and he'll be comfortable. So there's a reason why. Most people will tell you around the facility that's how I look. It's just a blessing to even have met, to know coach Belichick."
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Denard & Talib are fine with me and Mcourty is in his new home. Thats 3of 4 (Get a safety)
Linebackers Mayo Spikes Hightower Ninko I'm OK there
DL I believe Jones is going be the guy Vince no discussion I would be in for another DT or DE
I would say BB is man over and over but I don't like our blitz schemes and some of our pass D philosiphy. So that is why I said a new DC. BB appears to give McDaniels on the O great lattitude. If it not BB's philosiphy then I stand by what I said new DC.
Bags pointed it out and I believe it the DC stays. IMO the problems could be more schemes than personnel unfortunately there would only be one way to find out and I don't see other teams right now looking to steal our DC.
I've been looking at the 2013 fa's and I picked out a few canditates. Ed Reed and Dwight Freeney are 2 players who might be looking at 1 more kick at the can that we can get without killing our cap. At the safety position there are 2 big named guys that would cost a Tonne, Jarius Byrd and Dashon Goldson. Probably can't fit a huge cap hit like this but it would fill a massive need. On the cheap, Glenn Dorsey might be a guy that if he played next to Vince in the 4-3 might excel. Just some thoughts.
IMO I would rather add a piece on D like Byrd or retain Talib than resign Welker.
Glass Boy down!
that being said, i agree that the scheme based pass defense has been too passive in the past. largely a function of personnel, particularly on the outside IMO. We havent had a cover corner as good as Talib in years (maybe rookie year DMC) and this secondary is starting to strengthen , assuming Talib is back. Obviously better coverage allows for more freedom to blitz, and I think that the passive schemes in the past have reflected BBs recognition of lacking DBs. Time will tell but i would think you see more pressure brought this year, particularly as some of the ILBs (spikes, hightower when he played there) are actually developing into useful downhill pass rushers that would help shift focus from Jones and co on the outside. getting a new DC wouldnt mean diddly as BB dictates scheme tendencies and personnel more than the offensive side of the ball anyway.
Last edited by captmike; 01-31-2013 at 01:03 AM.
Long term McCourty is definitely a FS, but I don't think a year playing SS next to Reed would be bad for his development. One thing I think our secondary is lacking is a veteran presence on the back end that can set the defense. Reed is so smart that I think even in year 1, he can pass a lot on to McCourty. I could see Reed taking a 1 year deal here trying for a SB. And McCourty, even playing out of position for a year, has a great mentor that will ultimately make him better off for the future.
Goldson also has high praise for BB:
http://bostonherald.com/sports/patri...fans_belichickGoldson could be another option for the Patriots, who were inconsistent in the back of the secondary, even after Devin McCourty shifted from corner to safety. Goldson visited with the Patriots in 2011 and admitted there was real interest in signing, though he wasn’t overwhelmed with a deal and returned to the 49ers on a modest one-year, $2 million contract.
“I really thought highly of it,” Goldson said. “I was up in my hotel late at night talking to my agent going back and forth, and I just made the decision and stuck with it.”
When pressed for more specifics, Goldson said, “I just think it was a better situation for me to stay in San Francisco. It was based on what was going on over there, how I felt. I still felt I had something to prove. Boston had their stuff intact already, and I just felt the situation would have been different if I had gotten there. I think I made a good decision on staying here and making the best out of it.”
Goldson looked at a Patriots roster that included safeties Patrick Chung, James Sanders and Brandon Meriweather, and knew there would be greater competition for playing time. So he stuck with the 49ers, who drafted him in 2007, and made the Pro Bowl the last two years and earned an All-Pro nod this season.
“My football team I was on was a great football team,” Goldson said. “The mindset, we were on a building stage, and I want to be a part of that. We had made so many strides, especially for me being there early in 2007. We had made so many strides that we got to the point to where we could get the team to this point.”
Goldson would be the 49ers’ highest-priority free agent, so they could retain him with the franchise tag for the second consecutive season if negotiations don’t materialize in the next few weeks. He even said yesterday he believed he would be back for a seventh season with the Niners.
But Goldson has some good history with Belichick and relished the chance to meet him two summers ago. He could be the Patriots’ X-factor if the 49ers don’t secure him quickly enough.
“Bill is a good guy,” Goldson said. “We sat down, talked football. He stressed how he wanted me there and let me know what it was going to take. My hat is off to him.”
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Agreed. I said a Safety and a DL or DE. What were you thinking in terms of replacing starters? We obviously want depth.
This team has far more than enough depth. I would agree help up front is a priority on both sides of the ball, but you could realistically say that adding a starting caliber Db, DE and Dt all would be worthwhile. Again, the cap is a limiter but those are all positions that need to be addressed either this offseason or next IMO
Nah I don't play Madden I was kind thinking a Safety like the 4 in the Superbowl they all hit and play their spots well.
Ravens are there b/c Flacco performed and Brady didnt. Ravens defense is far overrated at this point, none more so than their safeties. Reed is still good but a shadow of his former self, Pollard is inconsistent in coverage. Not a strength, better than what we have, sure but thats not saying much as opposite DMC was a black hole this year. And you could argue the safeties are the weakest part of the 49ers entire defensive unit, propped up by superior players around them. Both Whitner and Goldson are more hitters than coverage guys and i works for them because the 9ers have great CBs and get QB pressure much better than we do. Again, its all relative, but that wouldnt for us given current roster construction. If we had the CB and rusher I mentioned above, sure. But you need to another coverage safety to mask current inability to rush the passer and developing CB play behind Talib
I would never sacrifice hitting for coverage but we do need somebody in the back 4 that can come up and stop and cover. Mc is the rangy cover guy.
No. DMC was actually pretty highly regarded as run supporter at CB. While that doesnt play the same way at S, you absolutely have to prioritize coverage at S in the current league structure. FWTIW, I wouldnt mind drafting a corner to convert to S and shifting DMC to SS assuming Reed isnt coming. If that happens, it essentially is a best case scenario for the secondary but makes filling other needs much more difficult due to Reeds salary demands.
Not a very well thought out deal in my view.
Bill Parcells: "You are what your record says you are."
Dane Flethcher back in the mix. While he's not the saviour to the Pats coverage problems, he can certainly help in sub packages, maybe coming in for Spikes on passing downs. Good to have him back.