The Last Offseason Talking Place

[jej]

when you have 46 dbls and 21HRS you dont need guys in scoring position all the time smart girl. he got enough MVP votes to place 10th that yr.

in 2010 i picked D Young off the waiver wire and he helped lead me to a ship, dont get me wrong im not trying to defend him, but hes got talent and its showed up in MLB, and hes 27, he won ALCS MVP last year... and raul is making 3x as much! i think its an indictment on his refusal to gain discipline in any area of life LOL

Calm down slugger. I'm just saying the RBIs aren't what made him good that year. If your point was that he hit Hr and doubles, why not use those instead of a useless team stat?

[FWBrodie]

Calm down slugger. I'm just saying the RBIs aren't what made him good that year. If your point was that he hit Hr and doubles, why not use those instead of a useless team stat?

Just shut up. You point out the dumbest things at the worst times.

[jej]

Just shut up. You point out the dumbest things at the worst times.

No. **** you.

Didnt you say something about CM using RBI to support Morse? I think so. Just get off your ****ing high horse

[MattColby]

Brodie and his ****ing horse.

[Seattle4Ever]

Why do you call everyone slugger?

[jej]

Why is everyone here a hypocrite?

[Seattle4Ever]

I don't know, slugger!

[Iansnightout]

Why is everyone here a hypocrite?

Speak for yourself.

[jej]

Brodie and S4E do to me exactly what they say I shouldn't do.

[Iansnightout]

Brodie and S4E do to me exactly what they say I shouldn't do.

They are not everyone

[Seattle4Ever]

On everyone's behalf, I think I can say me and Brodie actually ARE everyone.

[FWBrodie]

I'm just trying to teach you how not to be a dick... and also how to be a dick better. Lessons everyone must go through.

[MattColby]

I'm just trying to teach you how not to be a dick... and also how to be a dick better. Lessons everyone must go through.

Fact

[CamraMaan]

exactly. thats why i loathe wedge. i cant stand when a team shuffles the lineup everyday. my kinda team is when a player knows going to the ballpark exactly where they will play and bat in the lineup and who will hit in front and behind em.... i know the hitters weren't helping him out but it didnt even seem like wedge even tried to find a consistent lineup, and prolly hindered some of the guys (no excuse tho).... The best Mariner teams ever a casual fan coulda predicted the lineup card, i think that is sign of a good team...

Gotta remember that young guys who are new to the majors don't yet think like vets, or respond to coaching like vets... so sometimes you gotta think differently. I'm not sure how much time you've spent around kids, but when it comes to disciplining them, well, not everyone knows how to do it right/well... often times the attempts are met with futility. Why? Because adults are used to interacting with adults, so if you try to talk to kids like they're adults it often fails to get the results you want. Point being? It takes a manager who understands the immature baseball mentality of these kids to find ways to make them into vets. I mean some of these kids just have "it", and don't need the coaching as much, and don't need a creative manager to bring out there best, but then I would argue the majority do need it. I do believe that some of Wedge's "insanity" in setting a lineup card has less to do with not knowing how to do it, and more to do with toying with the kids' mentalities in ways that they will eventually respond to positively, and end with eventual maturity.

The only reason I think that is because he has a track record of it. I'm certainly not saying he's the manager I want down the road when we have a talent laden team, but I think he's what we need right now in order to get us to the point where we have a talented and productive lineup.

dang, i know Delmon Young sucks big time, but i would rather have him at that cost or even a little more then Raul and/or Bay

I agree, simply because of the cost. Would have more faith in Young producing more than Bay, or more consistently than Bay. But I would also prefer Ibanez at the same cost.... however at the much reduced rate I would take Young. And I could certainly understand the argument that I might prefer to keep Jaso and sign Young at that cost, versus trading Jaso for Morse and his bloated contract.

Woo hoo, he had a person in scoring position in front of him a lot. That's not why he is better than what we have

Think jej, how often did we have men on base, in scoring position, and get absolutely nothing done at the plate...? RBIs are not simply the product of having men on base, they are the product of having men on base and having someone at the plate who is up to the job of getting them home. As Mariners fans we should know by now that some are good at that, or in our case many are bad at it.

Brodie and his ****ing horse.

I once downloaded a porn video by accident that had a chick trying to get screwed by a horse. And I was intending to download porn, that wasn't the accident, the title was just 100% misleading. I watched the video though... soooo weird, and sooooooooo not hot. Unless you're Jenny Jejstein and like that kind of thing.

I'm just trying to teach you how not to be a dick... and also how to be a dick better. Lessons everyone must go through.

Intent... that is the key. Be a dick when you intend to be, and not when you don't intend to be... wise words there Brodie!

[tmacsc2]

U mad BRO?