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    Gary Myers: Woody sticks with Flawed strategy

    Rex Ryan's power base with the Jets, which these days falls a bit short of being Woody Johnson's co-owner, just got a little stronger with the hiring Friday of John Idzik as general manager.

    Idzik, a really smart guy who played at Dartmouth and later was a graduate assistant coach while he was getting his master's degree at Duke, can handle a dreadful salary cap, even the Jets mess of about $20 million-$25 million over the limit, in his sleep.

    But in 20 years in the front offices of the Bucs, Cardinals and the last six years with the Seahawks, he had not made one draft pick or been responsible for deciding who to sign as a free agent.

    The Jets have major personnel issues and they hired a capologist to fix it. That should have Jets fans running to scoop up the remaining PSLs.

    John Idzik can handle a salary cap, but can he spot talent?

    Even though Idzik, 52, once coached receivers at SUNY Buffalo – hey, Chip Kelly made a name for himself at New Hampshire – and then later was the running backs coach for the Aberdeen Oilers, who are in Scotland and play in the British American Football League, he developed his reputation in the NFL and a strong relationship with the league office because of his work on the business side, not the football side.

    By not hiring a true football guy, Johnson keeps Ryan in the personnel loop more than he deserves. Ryan is still coaching for his job in 2013 and ultimately Idzik could force him out, but it only makes sense Ryan's influence in the draft room would have immediately diminished if Johnson hired a general manager who has either run a draft or at least been a personnel director.

    Unless Idzik shakes up the Jets personnel department, the same people who were advising Mike Tannenbaum will be advising Idzik, and isn't how the Jets got in trouble in the first place? Johnson didn't do more than move around the furniture when he really needed a whole new dining room set.

    Johnson decided to keep the same organizational model he had with Tannenbaum, which makes little sense. "Business as usual isn't good enough," an NFL source said.

    The Jets needed someone to pick the players, not negotiate their contracts. Seattle made the best pick in the 2012 draft by grabbing Russell Wilson in the third round. What a steal. It would be nice if Johnson could stand at the podium when Idzik is formally announced next Thursday and say his new GM was responsible for selecting Wilson for the Seahawks.

    By all indications, the closest he came to any involvement with Wilson was negotiating his contract.
    The Giants have Jerry Reese making football decisions. He worked his way up in their personnel department and then as GM helped build two Super Bowl winners. Bill Belichick handles the Patriots personnel. The Jets compete with the Giants for local attention and with the Patriots in the AFC East. And they will continue to do this with a general manager whose background and strength is salary cap management – just like Tannenbaum – although Idzik's first job in the NFL in 1993 was as a pro personnel assistant in Tampa


    "I like John. He's a good guy. Honest. He will work his butt off," said one NFL source. "He's a little stiff, tight and inflexible. He has an answer for everything. And he's never had to handle the media."

    Sources say they believe Idzik went to GM John Schneider and coach Pete Carroll and asked to be sent on scouting trips the last couple of years so he could enhance his resume and become more experienced in personnel.

    That's a good thing.

    Did he have anything to do with drafting Wilson?

    "Surely not," the source said.

    That's a bad thing.

    According to another source, Idzik "was over the top ambitious" early in his NFL management career. "He was always driven," the source said. "He wanted to be a general manager, he wanted to be a personnel guy, he wanted to be a cap guy. He wanted to do everybody's job."

    The test will be whether Idzik the can fix the Jets personnel problems. That's how he will be judged. "The Jets job is difficult," the source said. "You can have as many as 12 new starters to deal with. This is a challenge."
    Why hire a cap guy when the other six GM openings were all filled by personnel guys? Johnson initially tried.

    His first choice was Atlanta's David Caldwell, but he lost him to Jacksonville. It was thought early in the process that San Francisco's Tom Gamble was close to getting the job, but that fizzled out.

    The Jets then changed the plan and concentrated on capologists and former Bears GM Jerry Angelo, who all along was the most qualified candidate to bring in the players to get the Jets headed back to the playoffs.
    "Woody wants to know that the guy running his team knows his money," a source said. "You can't sit here and say to Jets fans that this is about winning. Even if Idzik turns out to be great, nobody perceives it that way initially."

    One source said this job "is No. 32 out of 32."

    The Jets are going to be bad next season. They would be bad no matter who Johnson hired. But now the perception will be it's Idzik's fault because he's not a football guy.

    "Everything is going against him," a source said. "Lame duck coach, you have to overhaul the roster, the quarterback has failed miserably. Where is the positive? Restaurants? Shows?"

    But, if as one insider said, "John is so damn smart," then he will figure out how to transform the Jets from a circus into a show worthy of Broadway. But he better be really smart.
    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...1242850?pgno=1



    I love how Gary Myers is such an expert on decisions of what the Jets do. Same with the rest of these reporters. Its amazing how he wasn't offered a GM position since he knows so much.

    Those who know do. Those who don't write for the Daily News and The Post.
    Last edited by jetsforever; 01-21-2013 at 12:24 PM. Reason: Added article.

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    Huh?


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    haha delusional
    Someone underestimated the jets!

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    Quote Originally Posted by afmanic View Post
    I love how Gary Myers is such an expert on decisions of what the Jets do. Same with the rest of these reporters. Its amazing how he wasn't offered a GM position since he knows so much.

    Those who know do. Those who don't write for the Daily News and The Post.
    What?

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    I really don't understand what you're saying.
    If your'e ripping the ny press, you are probably right.
    But as my psd friends said int their posts... what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    I really don't understand what you're saying.
    If your'e ripping the ny press, you are probably right.
    But as my psd friends said int their posts... what?
    Sorry guys. I should have been more specific. I posted the title of the thread the same as Gary Meyers article's title. It's like every time the Jets do something, these guys criticize as if they are experts. Tired of their bull****. They are more focused on making something big out of nothing important.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afmanic View Post
    Sorry guys. I should have been more specific. I posted the title of the thread the same as Gary Meyers article's title. It's like every time the Jets do something, these guys criticize as if they are experts. Tired of their bull****. They are more focused on making something big out of nothing important.
    Welcome to New York media, is and always will be that way. Makes it worse when we promote an express yourself, free speaking media circus...


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    Quote Originally Posted by bwallstreet View Post
    haha delusional
    Someone underestimated the jets!

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    Hey guys, take it easy on aflacduck. He's heavily medicated due to the broken beak.


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    my prediction is next year rex gets fired, gruden comes in and thats when we draft a qb. at least we know gruden would be able to teach a qb a thing or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by katz42986 View Post
    my prediction is next year rex gets fired, gruden comes in and thats when we draft a qb. at least we know gruden would be able to teach a qb a thing or two
    Idzik isn't hiring gruden. It was gruden that fired him in Tampa bay.

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    gary meyers is a duckfaced assclown who looks like he was sketched into a simpsons episode while matt groening was on acid
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    Quote Originally Posted by BroadwayJoe View Post
    gary meyers is a duckfaced assclown who looks like he was sketched into a simpsons episode while matt groening was on acid
    I wish we had a like button similar to Facebook because I love that quote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by afmanic View Post
    Sorry guys. I should have been more specific. I posted the title of the thread the same as Gary Meyers article's title. It's like every time the Jets do something, these guys criticize as if they are experts. Tired of their bull****. They are more focused on making something big out of nothing important.
    Ok. Now it makes sense. There is no Baseball yet, hockey just started and BB is doing ok, so since they need to talk Football still because it's still the season, they are trying to create stories. In short, they are douche bags.
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    I wish we had a like button similar to Facebook because I love that quote!
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    Not for nothing but if a writer writes a story thats not kissing theJets *** for the they make many here throw little bf's, this article is on point, we do seem to always go against the grain and obviously it aint working and to go hire a guy who is rumored to be enamored with Tarvaris Jackson is kind of makes me nervous


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    Quote Originally Posted by VillaMaravilla View Post
    Not for nothing but if a writer writes a story thats not kissing theJets *** for the they make many here throw little bf's, this article is on point, we do seem to always go against the grain and obviously it aint working and to go hire a guy who is rumored to be enamored with Tarvaris Jackson is kind of makes me nervous
    well, when that writer ONLY writes negative articles and never has anything positive to say about the team (even when they were winning in '09 and '10), then fans have the right to "throw bf's" (whatever the **** that means).

    you can side with meyers all you want, villa... the rest of us will optimistically side with the vast majority of football people (not writers, but actual NFL minds and employees) who resoundingly think this is a solid hire for the jets.
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    I know it gets tiring, but as I've said (and others as well) - the NY Media has made a living off of killing the Jets; criticizing everything they do, and everyone, and that is a fact. Even in REX's 1st 2 years - it was always about REX, and/or players, talking big, and giving the opposing teams tons of bill-board information (or is that clip-board, or something similar), and the debacle of HBO, and "backing into the play-offs," etc., etc., until they actually got a bit excited about a chance at Championship Sunday - and we lost both, just like we've lost 4 in a row - and then they loo good bashing again. SCREW THEM!

    The best they would do, is do a personal interest story, or give someone a bit of credit AFTER-THE-FACT, but they couldn't wait to jump on the 1st negative thing they could.

    Our Jets have always been treated like this - with a few short-term exceptions - because - IT SELLS, and it's easier than actually researching football, knowing what's important, and what isn't, or ever trying to come up with a sound football analogy, or reasonable football alternatives.

    The new thing is - and it probably has to do with the internet/cable/satellite information revolution - it has spread to the weaker media people throughout the country.

    I don't know if Idzik, Earwig, and REX can do anything. It is going to be extremely difficult to make a huge turnaround this year, and I would settle for sound football decisions heading us in the right direction, BUT the media will continue to ridicule everything they do - UNTIL they're forced to comment on something good - and then they'll take the attitude that they knew it all along. Pay it no mind, and hope for good things - I think they're coming!

    GO JETS!!!
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