Rondo currently 2nd best PG on the current MVP list.
STATS FROM LAST WEEK (1/11-1/17): 12.0 ppg | 10.3 apg | 1.7 spg
The Celtics' mini-resurgence (6-4 in their last 10 games) has no doubt been fueled by the play of their mercurial point guard, who has notched triple-doubles twice in his last six games. Rondo is not scoring the way he was during a brief stretch last month, but he doesn't have to now that Paul Pierce is in a groove. Rondo being tabbed as a starter for the Eastern Conference All-Star team is clearly an indication that his approval rating is as high among the fans as it is among the pundits
I just noticed you said you hadn't respected me for 2 years... let's see a guy that:
1. didn't know the importance of Sam Jones or Kevin McHale historically for the Celts
2. a guy that didn't think that the owners had any right to do anything with their investments but fork over money so you wouldn't miss a game
3. went out onto the main NBA board to argue against advanced stats and got your head handed to you?
4. a guy that argues Pierce as a better player than Bird?
I don't want your respect Jack.
I care that minds that are less set in concrete understand - or at least consider the arguments that Rondo isn't perfect and isn't deserving of single of the two MVP votes he ever got, or this years ECF AS berth. That's enough for me.
As far as his #2 FG you mentioned earlier.
Rondo is 7th in eFG% and 7th in FGA - good for him over the past few years, but not good in terms of being an AS this year.
Rondo is also 17th in FGA among all point guards. So, you say, he gets a lot of assists. Nice, but a team that is 19th in scoring that has the PG with the 2nd highest 2 point FG% in the league would seem to be somebody that should be hoisting more shots a game.
Pierce is #1 in FGA with a meh .427%
KG is 2nd in FGA with a good .507%
Rondo is 3rd in FGA with a good .496%
Courtney, Bass, and Lee are fairly close in FGA, but meh in FG%, so why isn't Rondo shooting more?
I don't mean crazy totals, but instead of his current 11.3, what about 14?
Well defense is usually looked at as one category, so I'd say defense is more important than assists, since assists is a subset of offense - even for a PG.
It's impossible to judge the relative importance of assists vs scoring unless you know what the team needs and has asked for.
Parker scores and makes plays both. He plays for a balanced well coached team that needs both things.
So because he has 3.8 more APG less than Rondo, he's not as good? Here is a hint - this year Parker is walking all over Rondo - easily.
69centers quoted "STATS FROM LAST WEEK (1/11-1/17): 12.0 ppg | 10.3 apg | 1.7 spg
The Celtics' mini-resurgence (6-4 in their last 10 games) has no doubt been fueled by the play of their mercurial point guard, who has notched triple-doubles twice in his last six games. Rondo is not scoring the way he was during a brief stretch last month, but he doesn't have to now that Paul Pierce is in a groove. Rondo being tabbed as a starter for the Eastern Conference All-Star team is clearly an indication that his approval rating is as high among the fans as it is among the pundits"
Before the game of 12/15/12 Rondo had 12.9 assists per game, in the 16 games since then he has 8.7
Rondo's FG% was about .514 as of 12/24 and it's been .475 since
I guess all those fans and writers are too busy to see Rondo having another very flat period - much like his 14 game dead zone after Perk was dealt over two years agol.
How can a player be great or a leader if he goes and hibernates for long periods of time? In any event, he's undeserving of anything this year, but to lie on the coach of therapist, before he buries the Celts with this "leadership" of his. I think it's time to anoint Bradley the leader of the future, couldn't be a worse choice than 'ole Random Rondo.
The FACTS are, Rondo turns the ball over a lot, shoots poorly from 3 and the line, and doesn't score enough most nights.
If he's #1 in assists, and really stinking bad in a lot of other categories, well than it averages out to less than a #1 point guard.
I'll just go full-troll mode and post this if it helps you
As far as Bags' multiple rants above, no one is going to have 10+ assists per game, every game. He's human. He'll have "flat" stretches. Although, he did have a pretty long streak going, which was only EVER reached by Stockton and Magic.
2012-13 Rajon Rondo 11.0
2011-12 Rajon Rondo 11.7
2010-11 Steve Nash 11.4
2009-10 Steve Nash 11.0
2008-09 Chris Paul 11.0
2007-08 Chris Paul 11.6
2006-07 Steve Nash 11.6
2005-06 Steve Nash 10.5
2004-05 Steve Nash 11.5
2003-04 Jason Kidd 9.2
2002-03 Jason Kidd 8.9
2001-02 Andre Miller 10.9
2000-01 Jason Kidd 9.8
1999-00 Jason Kidd 10.1
1998-99 Jason Kidd 10.8
1997-98 Rod Strickland 10.5
1996-97 Mark Jackson 11.4
1995-96 John Stockton 11.2
1994-95 John Stockton 12.3
1993-94 John Stockton 12.6
1992-93 John Stockton 12.0
1991-92 John Stockton 13.7
1990-91 John Stockton 14.2
1989-90 John Stockton 14.5
1988-89 John Stockton 13.6
1987-88 John Stockton 13.8
1986-87 Magic Johnson 12.2
1985-86 Magic Johnson 12.6
1984-85 Isiah Thomas 13.9
1983-84 Magic Johnson 13.1
1982-83 Magic Johnson 10.5
16 games isn't a few games, it's almost 1/5 of the season. And a drop of 67% of the prior average of Rondo's key statistic is alarming - unless you are in denial.
You got it wrong Jack. I don't need to explain anything, those voters need to explain why they are running a popularity contest.
BTW, I noticed as usual you didn't even answer my points. Is it an issue with reading, or an issue of ducking facts that I have been so effectively and completely making a farce of this "AS" vote?
Last edited by bagwell368; 01-19-2013 at 10:16 PM.