Will there ever be another rock star?

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Rock has become irrelevant, any popular "rock" music is basically pop these days. Most would be rock fans have realized that the real talent base in musicians is in metal. Most rock is just catchy pop riffs/chords played on actual instruments. It is watered down for the masses and so people can hum and sing along.

Is there anything inherently wrong with this? No, but most music fans realize what the industry is doing and it is not palatable to them. So they are forced to live in the past or accept the new wave of music.

While I am no where near a fan of the music there are no more Zepplins, AC/DC's, or Beattles left in the world. There are only Beiber's, Kanye's, and Lil Waynes along with some actually talented musicians who will never be heard by the masses because they are too stupid to listen.

I haaaaaate Kanye, but dude's crazy talented. It's not a traditionally talented type of deal with regard to being creative with a melody/notes/whatever, but he's changed how we listen to music. That's almost as impressive as being as musically brilliant as someone like Jack White.


Now, none of these guys are on the level of someone who is classically trained (and many of those musicians couldn't fit into the popular music world), but they're heads and shoulders above their peers.


One name I'd throw out there is Trent Reznor. He's not particularly heavily played, but damn near everyone when I was in HS knew his name.

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Kanye sure hasn't changed how I listen to music. He's a really good producer and a half-*** rapper who has really caught the public's attention over the last half decade or so. That's about it.

For that matter, I don't find Jack White to be particularly brilliant either. Good songwriter but nothing especially new in terms of sound and definitely no virtuoso on the guitar.

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Kanye sure hasn't changed how I listen to music. He's a really good producer and a half-*** rapper who has really caught the public's attention over the last half decade or so. That's about it.

For that matter, I don't find Jack White to be particularly brilliant either. Good songwriter but nothing especially new in terms of sound and definitely no virtuoso on the guitar.

Neither of which are requirements to be brilliant.

[hugepatsfan]

Rock has become irrelevant, any popular "rock" music is basically pop these days. Most would be rock fans have realized that the real talent base in musicians is in metal. Most rock is just catchy pop riffs/chords played on actual instruments. It is watered down for the masses and so people can hum and sing along.

Is there anything inherently wrong with this? No, but most music fans realize what the industry is doing and it is not palatable to them. So they are forced to live in the past or accept the new wave of music.

While I am no where near a fan of the music there are no more Zepplins, AC/DC's, or Beattles left in the world. There are only Beiber's, Kanye's, and Lil Waynes along with some actually talented musicians who will never be heard by the masses because they are too stupid to listen.

Just because someone makes bad music doesn't mean they're not talented.

[iam brett favre]

Brandon Flowers could potentially be a rock star.

[iam brett favre]

Kanye sure hasn't changed how I listen to music. He's a really good producer and a half-*** rapper who has really caught the public's attention over the last half decade or so. That's about it.

For that matter, I don't find Jack White to be particularly brilliant either. Good songwriter but nothing especially new in terms of sound and definitely no virtuoso on the guitar.

half-*** rapper?

[manbearchef]

^ or Dave Grohl or Chris Cornell, too.

This, though Cornell is probably a stretch. I'm surprised nobody has said Anthony Kiedis. Not everyone knows his name, but everyone knows his band (RHCP). Anyone who hears the opening guitar to "Scar Tissue" and doesn't recognize it has been living under a rock for 15 years.

I haaaaaate Kanye, but dude's crazy talented. It's not a traditionally talented type of deal with regard to being creative with a melody/notes/whatever, but he's changed how we listen to music. That's almost as impressive as being as musically brilliant as someone like Jack White.


Now, none of these guys are on the level of someone who is classically trained (and many of those musicians couldn't fit into the popular music world), but they're heads and shoulders above their peers.


One name I'd throw out there is Trent Reznor. He's not particularly heavily played, but damn near everyone when I was in HS knew his name.

I really disagree with Kanye. I don't really listen to rap much, but Kanye was probably one of my favorites prior to his fourth studio album. College Dropout, Late Registration, and Graduation were as solid as I believe a rap album can be, but then he started his ****-tier auto-tune half-assed albums.

If Reznor can be considered a defining rock star, anyone can...

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half-*** rapper?

You read that right. I've never been particularly impressed with his rhyme schemes/flow.

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This, though Cornell is probably a stretch. I'm surprised nobody has said Anthony Kiedis. Not everyone knows his name, but everyone knows his band (RHCP). Anyone who hears the opening guitar to "Scar Tissue" and doesn't recognize it has been living under a rock for 15 years.



I really disagree with Kanye. I don't really listen to rap much, but Kanye was probably one of my favorites prior to his fourth studio album. College Dropout, Late Registration, and Graduation were as solid as I believe a rap album can be, but then he started his ****-tier auto-tune half-assed albums.

If Reznor can be considered a defining rock star, anyone can...

If you consider "rock star" to permeate genres, that may be true. If you consider "rock star" to be one of the voices for a genre, I don't think that's as true.

Reznor's a pretty big player in the industrial rock/experimental rock/independent rock/whatever you want to call it world. I think he's close to (if not) the defining voice for that style/collection of styles.

[thefeckcampaign]

Not that I'm really even a fan of U2, but what about Bono?

Definitely!

And don't forget Tommy Lee, KISS and Metallica.