Phil Hughes Situation.

[Mula225]

I agree, Doritos.

I like Phil and want to root for him, but there is NO FKN WAY I'm paying him the 5/60-75 that he is going to command.

He has shown zero durability, zero growth and zero big game potential.

Jesus Leo, you ****ing hate Phil Hughes. Don't give me this crap about wanting him to do well.

But seriously, if he wants 5/60-75 tell him to talk a walk. I agree with this.

I disagree on all 3 fronts as far as durability, growth and potential.

2 of the last 3 years he's been healthier.

He started throwing a change up and slider more this year.

Dude pitched well in the playoffs a few times. Saying he has zero big game potential makes no sense.

Stop the hate.

[Mula225]

This whole 'good pitching wins you championships' thing is also overblown.

We had GREAT pitching last year and got crushed.

Timely hitting outweighs pitching in my eyes.

You need to score more than the other team to win. Whether its 2-1 or 10-9.

Just fkn win.

Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling would like to take you down memory lane, and visit the 2001 world series. Byung-Hyun Kim almost single-handedly handed them the WS..

[Mula225]

I couldn't have said this better myself. It's a contract yr and Hughes's 92 mph straight fast ball isn't fooling anyone. 5/50???? You guys are bananas. Right now, Hughes is worth about 3 yrs 25mill.

4/36 isn't too far off.

[LeoYankee]

Jesus Leo, you ****ing hate Phil Hughes. Don't give me this crap about wanting him to do well.

But seriously, if he wants 5/60-75 tell him to talk a walk. I agree with this.

I disagree on all 3 fronts as far as durability, growth and potential.

2 of the last 3 years he's been healthier.

He started throwing a change up and slider more this year.

Dude pitched well in the playoffs a few times. Saying he has zero big game potential makes no sense.

Stop the hate.

Hughes stinks. Lets be honest with ourselves.

[Rylinkus]

Hughes stinks. Lets be honest with ourselves.

Career ERA+ of 99. That's basically the definition of league average

[Yankee Clipper]

Career ERA+ of 99. That's basically the definition of league average

I think the fact that he had such high aspirations his actually efficiency is seen as subpar. He's a league average pitcher, which should fare well pitching from the number 4 spot in the rotation. After this year though, I'm not so sure.

[LeoYankee]

Average stinks. Hence, my point.

Unless we aspire to be 81-81.

[Mula225]

Average stinks. Hence, my point.

Unless we aspire to be 81-81.

Average is average. He has the potential to be more. I believe in Phil.

Go back to wearing your Nova blinders and driving your Mazda.

[Yankees 1903]

Average stinks. Hence, my point.

Unless we aspire to be 81-81.

Average guys pitch in the #4-5 spot unless the Yanks get a rotation with all #1-3 guys.

[seikou8]

Average is average. He has the potential to be more. I believe in Phil.

Go back to wearing your Nova blinders and driving your Mazda.

agreed

[Pinstripe power]

Average stinks. Hence, my point.

Unless we aspire to be 81-81.

average doesnt stink for the back end of your rotation. they arent going to have 5 numbers 1s

[LeoYankee]

Average stinks if ur paying 5/75.

[Yanks All Day]

Pay Hughes and keep him around. Our rotation is basically screwed going forward as-is:

Sabathia - Ok. We'll have him for a few years pitching well.
Andy & Kuroda - Probably their last seasons.
Nova- Took a step back last year, and was already not as good as Hughes.
Pineda - Coming off surgery and we haven't seen him pitch at all yet.
Banuelos & Betances - Oft injured, and not even like they're ready to come up yet.

So after this season, we have CC Sabathia and..... no one. Maybe Nova turns it around? Maybe Pineda comes back strong? Maybe one of our two kids are ready to step up? Unless you wanna shell out huge money for Josh Johnson, Matt Garza, Adam Wainwright, or Tim Lincecum, our options are limited. He still has a fly ball problem, but he's better than other options for us at his probable price range.

[LeoYankee]

Hughes will be my Swisher this year.

Just cause it irks most of u.

[Yankees 1903]

Hughes will be my Swisher this year.

Just cause it irks most of u.

I think you were as hard on Hughes last season as you were on Swish. You may have to create a new level of hatred for Hughes.