What ever happened to Albert Pujols as one of the MLB's best?

[Jeffy25]

I think WAR is a bit overrated of statistic. Some of the time it properly correlates a player's value to the team. I mean last year Jeff Franceours WAR was -2.7, mearly because Wil Myers was in their farm system.That more or less depends on who is underneath you on the team. If Pujol's back up a AAA who hit's .234 with 12 homers, it might inflate his WAR a bit.

That is not how WAR works at all.

[Jeffy25]

If you think Pujols was never using anything then you're lost. And if you think Pujols was in his prime around 27-29 or 30 then you're really lost. ROFL

If Pujols was using, it's pretty crazy the amount of consistency he had, the plate discipline he had at a very young age, and the rate in which he improved at literally everything.

He is one of the most difficult guys to say he used. Because his career has basically no spikes, no outliers, and he consistently would had to have gotten away with something that didn't affect his performance in times when he couldn't use.

The only times his production has dropped at all in his career is based on one single thing. His patience at the plate.

No to mention, the fact the guy has great power with a low K rate. That's extremely odd and rare.


I would be as surprised to find out Pujols used PED's as I would if I heard the same of Griffey. Neither fit the criteria very well.

[Jeffy25]

hes 35

Considering he went to American high school and college and isn't from a country that we have had age issues. I think this is very unlikely as well.

[sexicano31]

The fact that you took my first post seriously is really a great example of why you aren't a good poster.
That's not to say that I don't think there's a chance he used PED's. But come on now.

So you were trolling? Good to know

[Jeffy25]

The fact that you took my first post seriously is really a great example of why you aren't a good poster.
That's not to say that I don't think there's a chance he used PED's. But come on now.

Thanks for admitting you were trolling.

[metswon69]

The fact that you took my first post seriously is really a great example of why you aren't a good poster.
That's not to say that I don't think there's a chance he used PED's. But come on now.

I fully believe he did PED's.
But the first post was a joke, because I think this thread is absurd. He is still great.

Do you think there's a chance he used PEDS or do you actually believe he did?

Or are you trolling like Sexicano and Jeffy pointed out?

I'll stick with the trolling..

[Tkais9009]

for a mod, you post pad a lot jeffy haha


to the thread tho..... its age and the fact that he switched leagues imo

[Shlumpledink]

Pujols is older, and has played with a lot of injuries throughout his career. That can take a cumulative effect and slow you down a lot. I think his plate discipline has worn down a bit, he went from being very patient to being somewhat impatient. I expect him to still have good numbers for 5 more years.

I don't think he juiced. I would be surprised to learn he did.

[Jeffy25]

for a mod, you post pad a lot jeffy haha


to the thread tho..... its age and the fact that he switched leagues imo

post-padding is one or two words, or incomplete sentences with the intent of simply raising your post count.

Those are full sentences in response to earlier posts and spread out over several minutes. It would possibly be easier to just quote them all into one post though.

[Tkais9009]

haha yeah i know, just giving you crap

[sep11ie]

haha yeah i know, just giving you crap

So you were post padding...lol

[SenorGato]

Moved on to the next one once he got paid. That plus he's not the same player.

[JackB]

He is still one of the best 10 players in baseball.

[iam brett favre]

IABF:

I wouldn't say I BELIEVE he did or does PEDs. But, I can definitively say I wouldn't be surprised if ANY player were outed as a user in any generation.

Hell, I'm not naive enough to say Griffey was clean and he was my favorite player.

So, I guess for once, we kind of agree.

[iam brett favre]

So you were trolling? Good to know

We all know you've never done it.