TSN Top 50

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1. Sidney Crosby
2. Evgeni Malkin
3. Claude Giroux
4. Steven Stamkos
5. Pavel Datsyuk
6. Jonathan Toews
7. Shea Weber
8. Daniel Sedin
9. Henrik Sedin
10. Anze Kopitar
11. Erik Karlsson
12. Zdeno Chara
13. Zach Parise
14. Alex Ovechkin
15. Henrik Lundqvist
16. Jonathan Quick
17. Drew Doughty
18. Ilya Kovalchuk
19. Corey Perry
20. John Tavares
21. Eric Staal
22. Henrik Zetterberg
23. Jason Spezza
24. Rick Nash
25. Jordan Eberle
26. Ryan Suter
27. Pekka Rinne
28. Alex Pietrangelo
29. Kris Letang
30. Martin St. Louis
31. Tyler Seguin
32. Marian Hossa
33. Nicklas Backstrom
34. Ryan Getzlaf
35. Patrice Bergeron
36. James Neal
37. Jarome Iginla
38. Patrick Kane
39. Jamie Benn
40. Joe Thornton
41. Logan Couture
42. Brad Richards
43. Dustin Brown
44. Mike Richards
45. Marian Gaborik
46. Jordan Staal
47. Phil Kessel
48. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
49. Duncan Keith
50. Taylor Hall


http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=81134

Let the arguments begin.

[ink]

I like where Toews, Datsyuk, Kopitar, Ovechkin, and Quick are. Ovechkin needs to redeem himself and he'll be back in the top 10 again. No argument whatsoever with where Crosby is.

[jrice9]

Datsyuk is not the 5th best player in the NHL.

(Even if we're just counting forwards) Its simply not true anymore.

His defensive and offensive abilities have declined rather substantially.

[b1e9a8r5s]

Its only one spot, but I don't know how you take Karlsson over Chara.

Also, Dustin Brown was amazing in the playoffs, but I don't know if that makes him top 50. He's been rather average except for that run.

Hossa is too low. Hossa>Nash.

[jrice9]

Daniel over Henrik Sedin also seems a bit questionable (though laughable being discussed).

Also lol at Zach Parise ranking, i didn't even see that.

How can a person have Parise that high especially over Kovalchuk and Perry

Also how can Rinne be 27 when Lundqvist is 17 when its a very close decision between the two, I lean Rinne

[Illa215]

**** the Preds for matching Weber's offer sheet.

[Halladay]

The hate for the Leafs is unreal. Kessel is the 47th best player in the league? A point per game player? behind Brown,Richards,Nash,Letang etc? that's a joke. Out of all the players at or around a PPG, no one's ranked lower. And Lupul was the only ppg player not to make it. These ranking blow after the top 11.

[bruins>habs]

Yeah, Kessel got screwed.....he's definitely a higher ranked player imo

[bruins>habs]

Chara to 7, Karlsson to 12, Weber to 11.

and if thats too much, move the Sedin's in front of Chara at 7-8 and Chara 9, weber 10, karlsson 11.

[RedWings13]

The hate for the Leafs is unreal. Kessel is the 47th best player in the league? A point per game player? behind Brown,Richards,Nash,Letang etc? that's a joke. Out of all the players at or around a PPG, no one's ranked lower. And Lupul was the only ppg player not to make it. These ranking blow after the top 11.

Agreed. Kessel at 47 is a complete joke. The list doesn't look too bad outside of this though

[bruins>habs]

Agreed. Kessel at 47 is a complete joke. The list doesn't look too bad outside of this though

i agree....obviously a few guys should've been higher while some should've been lower but the list won't be perfect....Kessel, though being a PPG player, was a -10 last season, and i'm sure that has something to do with his low rating, that's awful...but:

34. Getzlaf: -11...57 pts.

37. Iginla: -10....67 pts.

21. Staal: -20...70 pts.

29. Nash: -19..59 pts. (OVERRATED)

19. Perry: -7..60 pts.

yeah, nevermind...that's a case of "screw the leafs"

[Halladay]

Chara to 7, Karlsson to 12, Weber to 11.

and if thats too much, move the Sedin's in front of Chara at 7-8 and Chara 9, weber 10, karlsson 11.

I don't think anyone would take another dman over Weber tbh. Guys just too good. Karlsson and Chara is debatable really, Karlsson had an unreal season offensively.

i agree....obviously a few guys should've been higher while some should've been lower but the list won't be perfect....Kessel, though being a PPG player, was a -10 last season, and i'm sure that has something to do with his low rating, that's awful

Plus/Minus doesn't tell the whole story. The Leafs had horrid goaltending last season, and pretty much every year since the lockout. Kessel isn't a defensive dynamo by any means, but remember that the Leafs were ranked 29th in GAA last season. Pretty hard to put up a plus even at a PPG. If defense was so heavily factored in here, I see a lot of guys who aren't all that great defensively either, put up less points than Kessel and are way higher than him. OV and Kovalchuk are ranked at the top, this list doesn't make sense after the top 10. I'd love to hear the argument because I'm having a hard time justifying having OV in the top 15 and Kessel at 47. Ovechkin has been declining, it's not the Crosby vs OV show anymore.

[SLY WILLIAMS]

Im surprised Gabs is not higher coming off a very good year. What about Mcdonnah?

[kmo429]

Ill take JT at 20.

Of course, he's not a top 25 player under the age of 25 though.

[bruins>habs]

I don't think anyone would take another dman over Weber tbh. Guys just too good. Karlsson and Chara is debatable really, Karlsson had an unreal season offensively.



Plus/Minus doesn't tell the whole story. The Leafs had horrid goaltending last season, and pretty much every year since the lockout. Kessel isn't a defensive dynamo by any means, but remember that the Leafs were ranked 29th in GAA last season. Pretty hard to put up a plus even at a PPG. If defense was so heavily factored in here, I see a lot of guys who aren't all that great defensively either, put up less points than Kessel and are way higher than him. OV and Kovalchuk are ranked at the top, this list doesn't make sense after the top 10. I'd love to hear the argument because I'm having a hard time justifying having OV in the top 15 and Kessel at 47. Ovechkin has been declining, it's not the Crosby vs OV show anymore.

If they base this list of last season numbers, then chara was better in terms of Points and +/- and he is the Guy for the bruins on defense. Weber had Suter last season and was lower than Chara in points and +/-. That's why i believe he should be ahead. just my opinion, obviously everyone is going to have their different lists.

And yeah, i went back and edited my post....all the guys i listed had less points and high - ratings. I think some of this is a popularity list....I mean, Rick Nash? Really..... Jarome Iginla? Really... those two right there should be lower than kessel....sometimes i hate these lists b/c they can be a joke.