So let me gets this straight, every fan of an NFC South team thinks this is a joke either because Norv isn't going to Carolina, Chud degressed Cam somehow this year or because they were last in the NFC South this past year in offensive statistics. I guess I will take their word for it. smh. Also Bucs fans you guys interviewed Chud too last year before deciding on Greg so I don't see whats so funny. I guess you hate your FO and Owner though for even the thought of Chud as a HC?
All the other rationale individuals on this thread actually don't mind the pick and unlike Shurmur previously who was hired because of his Uncle the Browns finally actually picked a HC candidate because he warranted to obtain a HC'ing job in the league. Bring in good Coordinators with him which apperantly its going to be Norv on the offense and Mel Tucker on the defensive side and I dont see what the humor is all about besides assinine peoples book by the cover judgement of anything the Browns do which I guess form the past 13 years can be warranted. As a cautious Browns fan I am in wait and see mode but I can't hate on the pick too much.
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I'm glad to see some new guys get a shot at some of the head coaching positions...
He might have a good offensive mind, but lets see what kind of team manager he is? Will he give play calling and the offense to a coordinator or will he be doing double duty as head coach and offensive playcaller?
Every time I think about new head coaches and what they did for the team, I think about a guy like Raheem Morris. Morris was a very good defensive coach and knew the game inside and out. But what I think got him in trouble was the lack of trust he had for the coaches on the defensive side of the ball. A head coach can only do so much so I hope Chudzinski realizes this and trusts his guys to make him look good.
Thank you guys for your insight though, but alot of what you guys are saying was the same feeling I had when he left Cleveland and that it wasn't the end of the world to see him leave. Hopefully he can progress as a HC now.
Weeden >or= Anderson
WRs aren't looking to be as good as Braylon Edwards in 07, but maybe he was just from the system.
I like Benjamin Watson more than I ever liked Winslow.
The OL is absolutely solid, plus they have a young HB coming off of a respectable rookie season.
The defense is better than when he was there in 07.
They obviously won't finish any better than third, but they're also in the toughest division in the NFL.
The Browns may win a few more games by bringing in Norv Turner as the OC, but I don't see a huge turn around in the coming years.
He felt that one
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Let's ask some real questions.
Does he last more than 3 years?
I highly doubt he will, they'll have top 10 picks all 3 years and prob. finish 4th in the division every year.
How many games does he win in 3 years?
No more than 15(5 a year) I think it will be more around 4 a year...so 10-12 if he lasts 3 years.
Does someone here think he wins the division for them or even makes the playoffs during his tenure?
On paper, they're 0-6 in the division next season, at best 1-3 vs NFC North, at best 2-2 vs AFC East, and at best 2-0 vs JAX and KC. Realistically, they're a 3-5 win team. If he can have the Browns get an 8 win season by year 3, they just about have to re-sign him. The Browns going 8-8 would have to be like the SB to their unfortunate loyal fans.
Every analyst and educated fan agrees, the Browns are up and coming, we will only get better with the draft and free agency (~48 mil in cap space), were are closer than we have been in a long time, theres a great chance the Browns will be 8-8 next year, but you Mr. Expert have them only getting worse and being .500 in the 3rd yr under Chud, don't make me laugh and dont quit your dayjob, really getting sick of these uneducated fools talking about the Browns like they know anything
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Wonder if this stunts Cam's growth.