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    Colin Kaepernick #7 is going to be called.

    CK7 and JH have the eyes of the world watching them come Sunday Night at Candlestick.

    Finally, once and for all, all the debates over who is the better QB for this season Smith or CK7 will be settled once and for all.

    Throw out the stats, throw out the arguments. The only thing that matters is the victory or the defeat.

    Some say Smith wouldn't have been able to win in New England. Others have said Smith wouldn't have lost in STL, given that the defense gave up 3 points in regulation.

    IMO, doesn't matter who played out the regular season. We would have been the #2 seed regardless of who was the QB.

    If we win, JH's decision is at least a push, pending NCFCG.

    If we lose, JH is an idiot. I also suspect ownership was pushing for Alex to walk because they didn't want to pay him $$ next season.

    Alex Smith and company beat Rodgers in Green Bay week #1. Both teams had equal amounts to prepare.

    CK gets Rodgers at the stick, with a bye week.

    If we lose, I'm putting this one on CK and JH.

    That is all, Go Niners.

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    Not really. If the 49ers lose this weekend, there is no guarantee that they would've won with Alex. This is a good Packers team and the 49ers might not get anything from arguably their best defensive player. If the 49ers win the Super Bowl, there is guarantee that they wouldn't have won it with Alex. At the end of the day, whether we lose this week, next, or play in/win the Super Bowl, what would've happened with Alex Smith is purely speculation. At the end of the day, the move to Kap was made and whether it results in a SB this year or not it was still the right move for the future of the franchise. With the 49ers cap situation there was no way Alex could be on the team next year and Kap is ready to play now.

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    Wins and losses are not a QB stat. Kaep can have a great day and we can still lose and vice versa. Judge Kaep on his play and his play alone and not the result of the game.

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    I have a hard time the front office is splitting hairs over the money they owe alex next season, even then he wouldn't be near the top of the pack earnings wise that other starting quarterbacks are and thus given his production is a steal. Second, Jim Harbaugh isn't an idiot but he is an *******, however that probably is a good trait when it comes to winning football coaches. I am an Alex supporter and would rather have him as the starter personally, but I am loyal to people just like teams and when the two meet it creates an intense moment as a fan. Alex has had very tough times in his career, something Colin will likely never know, and he overcame them. That proves to me what he is made of, and I would rather route for guys like that-- regardless of their faults as a player, and especially given the lack of grace that he has been shown when having his job taken away. I have learned the grass isn't always greener. Regardless, I have hashed this out ad-nausea in this forum a few times.

    I hope Colin does well. I hope the 49ers win. I hope Alex lands on his feet. I hope Harbaugh has explosive diarrhea all off-season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsos View Post
    Wins and losses are not a QB stat. Kaep can have a great day and we can still lose and vice versa. Judge Kaep on his play and his play alone and not the result of the game.
    what????

    You mean if CK goes off for 25-26 430 yds, 5TDs 0 INTs and we still lose that I can't blame CK for losing?

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutty View Post
    what????

    You mean if CK goes off for 25-26 430 yds, 5TDs 0 INTs and we still lose that I can't blame CK for losing?

    lol
    Absolutely. Where was he on that incompletion? What a hack.


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    This is way off base, anyone whose watched the 49ers over the last few years knows that kaep is already the right pick, and Harbaugh was 100% right to make the switch, regardless if they win or lose Sat.


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    The team that wins the SB is the team that gets hot at the right time. Everybody is picking GB because SF has not played well since the 3d quarter of the NE game. The thing with Kaepernick is, if he gets hot...he can compete with the best QBs in the league. When Smith gets hot...he's efficient. Good thing about Smith is, even when he's not hot...he's smart enough for the team to be competitive. When Kaep is not...it could get pretty ugly. Efficient is good...very good. But efficient is not good enough to beat the "hot team". That's why the change needed to be...and was made.

    The Niners were blown out by Seattle. I doubt that happens if Smith is in at QB. I think they still lose...but the game more than likely would have been closer. The Niners really were blowing out NE until the coaching staff put the D in hibernation mode and Brady wasn't ready to quit yet. Which he never is so...that is where my confidence in the coaching staff became a little shaken. Anyway, if Smith is the QB in NE...the Niners more than likely would have lost that game.

    They're just two different styles. One will always be competitive, but always lose to a team that gets hot. The other may crash and burn...but may also be the hot team that gets it done. We'll see if this year is the year they're the hot team or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NinerHomer49 View Post
    The team that wins the SB is the team that gets hot at the right time. Everybody is picking GB because SF has not played well since the 3d quarter of the NE game. The thing with Kaepernick is, if he gets hot...he can compete with the best QBs in the league. When Smith gets hot...he's efficient. Good thing about Smith is, even when he's not hot...he's smart enough for the team to be competitive. When Kaep is not...it could get pretty ugly. Efficient is good...very good. But efficient is not good enough to beat the "hot team". That's why the change needed to be...and was made.

    The Niners were blown out by Seattle. I doubt that happens if Smith is in at QB. I think they still lose...but the game more than likely would have been closer. The Niners really were blowing out NE until the coaching staff put the D in hibernation mode and Brady wasn't ready to quit yet. Which he never is so...that is where my confidence in the coaching staff became a little shaken. Anyway, if Smith is the QB in NE...the Niners more than likely would have lost that game.

    They're just two different styles. One will always be competitive, but always lose to a team that gets hot. The other may crash and burn...but may also be the hot team that gets it done. We'll see if this year is the year they're the hot team or not.
    I completely agree. Good post

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    And what if Kaepernick goes for 180 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT and a lost fumble? Do people blame him then? Its such a fine line to where QBs can win or lose a game. A finer one on who fans would point a finger to. If the games ends in a loss and the score was 37-35, then the argument can go either way. Is it because the defense lost the game or was it because Kaepernick made some mistakes.

    Listening to Romo this morning on 95.7 and it really bugs me when he or anyone else, says that Alex Smith can't win games. Alex put this team on his back during the Saints playoff game last season. He runs in a TD to put them up just to have the defense give up a quick TD to Brees. That lead to a big pass to Vernon Davis and ultimately, the huge pass to VD in the endzone to ice the game. Alex Smith WON THAT GAME on a big stage. So no more "Alex can't win games and is only a game manager."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastSportz View Post
    And what if Kaepernick goes for 180 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT and a lost fumble? Do people blame him then? Its such a fine line to where QBs can win or lose a game. A finer one on who fans would point a finger to. If the games ends in a loss and the score was 37-35, then the argument can go either way. Is it because the defense lost the game or was it because Kaepernick made some mistakes.

    Listening to Romo this morning on 95.7 and it really bugs me when he or anyone else, says that Alex Smith can't win games. Alex put this team on his back during the Saints playoff game last season. He runs in a TD to put them up just to have the defense give up a quick TD to Brees. That lead to a big pass to Vernon Davis and ultimately, the huge pass to VD in the endzone to ice the game. Alex Smith WON THAT GAME on a big stage. So no more "Alex can't win games and is only a game manager."
    Saints fans could probably say "if we didn't blitz on that one play" then the big VD play doesn't happen. Therefore the Saints could have lost that game as much as you think Alex won it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastSportz View Post
    And what if Kaepernick goes for 180 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT and a lost fumble? Do people blame him then? Its such a fine line to where QBs can win or lose a game. A finer one on who fans would point a finger to. If the games ends in a loss and the score was 37-35, then the argument can go either way. Is it because the defense lost the game or was it because Kaepernick made some mistakes.

    Listening to Romo this morning on 95.7 and it really bugs me when he or anyone else, says that Alex Smith can't win games. Alex put this team on his back during the Saints playoff game last season. He runs in a TD to put them up just to have the defense give up a quick TD to Brees. That lead to a big pass to Vernon Davis and ultimately, the huge pass to VD in the endzone to ice the game. Alex Smith WON THAT GAME on a big stage. So no more "Alex can't win games and is only a game manager."
    He played the best football I've ever seen him play the last half of that 4th quarter.

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    Interesting stat I saw on ESPN, Kaep was 20th in the league in completion percentage when facing 5+ rushing defenders (blitz), and it's funny considering who's first, Alex. I just thought it's funny because it seems like blitzing Kaep would be ideal for us since I figure he'd be more able to escape pressure and actually get the ball to someone...whether this be due to people maybe not blitzing Kaep as much to avoid him getting outside the pocket and ripping a big run or w/e, I just wanted to kinda gauge why this would be the case. Maybe the crap playcalling in between the Bears game and Pats game had something to do with it, idk...just wanted to ask


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    Quote Originally Posted by miller74 View Post
    This is way off base, anyone whose watched the 49ers over the last few years knows that kaep is already the right pick, and Harbaugh was 100% right to make the switch, regardless if they win or lose Sat.
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by NinerHomer49 View Post
    The team that wins the SB is the team that gets hot at the right time. Everybody is picking GB because SF has not played well since the 3d quarter of the NE game. The thing with Kaepernick is, if he gets hot...he can compete with the best QBs in the league. When Smith gets hot...he's efficient. Good thing about Smith is, even when he's not hot...he's smart enough for the team to be competitive. When Kaep is not...it could get pretty ugly. Efficient is good...very good. But efficient is not good enough to beat the "hot team". That's why the change needed to be...and was made.

    The Niners were blown out by Seattle. I doubt that happens if Smith is in at QB. I think they still lose...but the game more than likely would have been closer. The Niners really were blowing out NE until the coaching staff put the D in hibernation mode and Brady wasn't ready to quit yet. Which he never is so...that is where my confidence in the coaching staff became a little shaken. Anyway, if Smith is the QB in NE...the Niners more than likely would have lost that game.

    They're just two different styles. One will always be competitive, but always lose to a team that gets hot. The other may crash and burn...but may also be the hot team that gets it done. We'll see if this year is the year they're the hot team or not.
    I agree on most here, except the score differing much with Alex, and your knocks on the coaching, nor do I believe in the hot team.
    Quote Originally Posted by WestCoastSportz View Post
    And what if Kaepernick goes for 180 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT and a lost fumble? Do people blame him then? Its such a fine line to where QBs can win or lose a game. A finer one on who fans would point a finger to. If the games ends in a loss and the score was 37-35, then the argument can go either way. Is it because the defense lost the game or was it because Kaepernick made some mistakes.

    Listening to Romo this morning on 95.7 and it really bugs me when he or anyone else, says that Alex Smith can't win games. Alex put this team on his back during the Saints playoff game last season. He runs in a TD to put them up just to have the defense give up a quick TD to Brees. That lead to a big pass to Vernon Davis and ultimately, the huge pass to VD in the endzone to ice the game. Alex Smith WON THAT GAME on a big stage. So no more "Alex can't win games and is only a game manager."
    Alex won that game because the rest of the team put us in a position to lose the game in the first place. It was one of the best games in Niner history and one of his best performances ever - but it's still the exception and not the rule. Alex fans keep pointing at that game like it erases the rest of his career, there is only so much weight you can put on one game - any game.

    What he did in one game does not change who he is as a QB, period.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lolPhillies View Post
    Agreed.


    I agree on most here, except the score differing much with Alex, and your knocks on the coaching, nor do I believe in the hot team.

    Alex won that game because the rest of the team put us in a position to lose the game in the first place. It was one of the best games in Niner history and one of his best performances ever - but it's still the exception and not the rule. Alex fans keep pointing at that game like it erases the rest of his career, there is only so much weight you can put on one game - any game.

    What he did in one game does not change who he is as a QB, period.
    If you're not knocking the coaching staff, then what do you believe is the cause for the offense basically being **** in between Week 11 and Week 15? Or what about the Seahawks game, where Frank Gore didn't get touches even given the sloppy weather?

    I like the staff we have, but that doesn't take away from the fact that they've shown to put the team in poor position to win some games they should've won this season, which I don't think was the case at all last season
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