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    I agree with the OP about Bonds and Clemens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubbiefan_est88 View Post
    Greg maddux hands down gets in. The only once in a lifetime talent of those.
    ?? Frank Thomas is awfully close to that rank on the hitting side.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    Biggio, Pizza, and Bagwell are all very very likely to eventually get in because of their current vote totals and years left.

    Clemens, Schilling, Bonds are both likely to at least get close

    And Edgar and Raines will be really interesting.

    The rest are unlikely to eventually get in based on these vote totals.


    Bye bye Dale Murphy


    Question for the voters:


    How does Jack Morris get more votes than Curt Schilling?

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    Quote Originally Posted by getfoul View Post
    I agree a hall of famer is a hall of famer, but if they actually wanted to make a "first ballot guy" a real thing, they should put the qualifying players on the ballot after four years instead of five, and if that player gets 85%, then they are a true "First Ballot" HOFer. If they don't get 85% then they would still get the 15 years to get 75%.
    or just vote them in with distinction if they get a certian poercentage of the vote. guys like biggio shouldn't have to wait solely because they arne't first ballot material.
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    I hate baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santana4Prez'08 View Post
    another really tough class, hopefully someone will get in
    Greg Maddux should get in with 98%+ of the vote. Glavine and Thomas should be no-doubters as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    How does Jack Morris get more votes than Curt Schilling?
    Because he is "clean", and he knows how to "win".


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

    Some jerks never learn.....

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    I can live with this result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    or just vote them in with distinction if they get a certian poercentage of the vote. guys like biggio shouldn't have to wait solely because they arne't first ballot material.
    I agree with you wholeheartedly. Craig Biggio is not in. Ron Santo is. Game over for me. Bagwell im on the fence, but in the end if they are HOf'ers they are HOf'ers
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    im still trying figure out when bonds test positive for steriods

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    ?? Frank Thomas is awfully close to that rank on the hitting side.
    how does frank thomas not get lumped in with suspected steroid users? but mike piazza does?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    Biggio, Piazza, Bagwell, and Schilling I thought were all guys who deserved to be in and had no real links to PEDs. The HOF is some ******** boys league. It's like some elitest fraternity holding grudges formed off of suspicion.
    A couple of the guys you mentioned were linked in some way.

    Bagwell: http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/1/...houston-astros

    Piazza: http://www.thefastertimes.com/mlb/20...hancing-drugs/

    In the 60's and 70's it was greenies. In the 80's cocaine. 90's-2000's steroids. If they want to make a true example they have to clear out the Hall for players who used PEDS ever. That means say goodbye to Mantle, Aaron, Morgan and many other players in the hall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popo85 View Post
    Who can qualify next yr? hopefully some with less controversy.
    Maddux, Glavine, Kent, Mussina, Thomas, Luis Gonzalez, Moises Alou, Ray Durham, Kenny Rogers



    Of these, statistically deserving will be:

    Maddux, Glavine, Mussina, and Thomas


    Kent is a long shot, but might hang around for awhile.


    We lost Kenny Lofton as a statistically deserving player from this ballot, but next year we will be up to 14 deserving statistical players. Pretty crazy, never been anywhere close to that high since the early 40's.

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    These voters are doing a great job of building a Hall of Fame!

    I mean, they have managed to keep out:

    The all-time home-run leader and one of the greatest batters of all time
    The Pitcher with the most Cy-Young Awards in MLB history
    The Batter with the most 60+ HR seasons of all time
    The Greatest hitting catcher of all time
    One of 4 players with 3K hits/500 HRs
    and the all-time hit king


    i'm sure those players weren't any good anyways, right guys?
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    Rose-Gordon-Deng-Anderson-Asik




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    Quote Originally Posted by quade36 View Post
    A couple of the guys you mentioned were linked in some way.

    Bagwell: http://www.crawfishboxes.com/2013/1/...houston-astros

    Piazza: http://www.thefastertimes.com/mlb/20...hancing-drugs/

    In the 60's and 70's it was greenies. In the 80's cocaine. 90's-2000's steroids. If they want to make a true example they have to clear out the Hall for players who used PEDS ever. That means say goodbye to Mantle, Aaron, Morgan and many other players in the hall.
    How can you link Mantle, Aaron and Morgan to those?

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