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    How can anyone possibly argue that Bonds cheated the fans? The fans wanted what he gave them. You can argue that the fans turned Bonds into what he became. The fans wanted more home runs. They wanted longer home runs. Bonds gave them all that and more.

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    Bagwell has a career OPS+ of 149. That's better than ARod's career mark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    Bagwell has a career OPS+ of 149. That's better than ARod's career mark.
    But how many ribeyez!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Mattingly got 13.2 and Bernie Williams got just 3.3% of the vote....

    If Bernie is not a Hall of Famer then why are votes wasted on him?


    I think they should raise the standards with 90% of the vote instead of 75%....
    If you fall below 15% you are no longer eligible correct? Does this mean the end of Mattingly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    Bagwell has a career OPS+ of 149. That's better than ARod's career mark.
    What the hell is that?

    Ave, HR and RBI

    W L S ERA WHIP

    That is all I look at.....

    This new generation has become too technical for a simple game....

    Now granted I do look at OPS and OBA...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    mussina is eligible next year. if he doesnt make it in at some point, the HOF is dead to me
    I would like to see Mussina kept out just because of his petulance.

    I'm not even going to bring up the dead Toronto broadcaster tribute *****ing tantrum he threw.

    Mussina seemed to calculate his own qualifications when he retired with that typical Stanford condescension about how he had the highest winning percentage of all plus 250 candidates or some such nonsense.

    I really hope he is kept out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    If you fall below 15% you are no longer eligible correct? Does this mean the end of Mattingly?
    Mattingly was the best player in the game for about 5 years.....

    He should have been below 15% every time.
    Mush

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    I would like to see Mussina kept out just because of his petulance.

    I'm not even going to bring up the dead Toronto broadcaster tribute *****ing tantrum he threw.

    Mussina seemed to calculate his own qualifications when he retired with that typical Stanford condescension about how he had the highest winning percentage of all plus 250 candidates or some such nonsense.

    I really hope he is kept out.
    He will get in but in 7-10 years.
    Mush

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    Who the Fck gave Aaron Sele one vote?

    That writer should turn himself in and never be allowed to vote again....
    Mush

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    He will get in but in 7-10 years.
    I was ecstatic when the Yankees announced they were acquiring Mussina.

    Much, much less so when the Giambi conference rolled around.

    Laughed my arse off when they signed Pavano.

    I can't even stand hearing the words Mike Mussina now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    If you fall below 15% you are no longer eligible correct? Does this mean the end of Mattingly?
    It is 5%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Who the Fck gave Aaron Sele one vote?

    That writer should turn himself in and never be allowed to vote again....
    Maybe he lost a bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    I was ecstatic when the Yankees announced they were acquiring Mussina.

    Much, much less so when the Giambi conference rolled around.

    Laughed my arse off when they signed Pavano.

    I can't even stand hearing the words Mike Mussina now.
    And what is your beef with Mussina?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    Maybe he lost a bet.
    This is my issue of writers voting.....no reason Aaron Sele should have received a vote....you vote for Hall of Famers not a guy with an ERA close to 5.00
    Mush

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    And what is your beef for Mussina?
    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    I would like to see Mussina kept out just because of his petulance.

    I'm not even going to bring up the dead Toronto broadcaster tribute *****ing tantrum he threw.

    Mussina seemed to calculate his own qualifications when he retired with that typical Stanford condescension about how he had the highest winning percentage of all plus 250 candidates or some such nonsense.

    I really hope he is kept out.
    See Above.

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